jscoder 2017-01-29 14:45:26
RickHull: yeah, I'm not really certain how to do that.. in theory I know how.. I've never done it.. and normally when I do these sorts of things its on actual apps not on libs which seem more complicated, especially when they're part of a huge DE with all kinds of deps in both directions
budder 2017-01-29 14:45:28
missmbob: did you say the default debian desktop environment is GNOME?
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:45:30
not that there aren't options
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:45:44
but have you examined what would be involved for a patch to 1.8 or whatever?
missmbob 2017-01-29 14:45:46
budder: i did
budder 2017-01-29 14:46:24
MissionCritical: there were two individual options for debian desktop and GNOME
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:46:35
RickHull: from what I gather, the site is the same, it just changed its domain name.. I don't know this for certain but its what I hear told.
budder 2017-01-29 14:46:45
missmbob: there were two individual options for debian desktop and GNOME
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:46:48
jscoder, are you the maintainer or DD?
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:47:04
they should know what to do, maybe a mailing list discussion?
missmbob 2017-01-29 14:47:26
budder: i realize that. if you uncleck everything, including gnome, the desktop task would select gnome
missmbob 2017-01-29 14:47:35
budder: uncheck*
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:48:06
RickHull: I'm not a developer or a maintainer.. I'm just a user who wants their weather applet to work. I read some discussions on ubuntu and mint forums about it and then I grabbed the source from sid and checked the changelog, which says this issue was addressed in 1.14
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:48:44
probably you are not the only one. is there a bug for this?
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:48:58
bugs.debian.org (or MATE?)
nChomsky 2017-01-29 14:49:37
Guys, I did it.
nChomsky 2017-01-29 14:49:58
I just had to reboot after aptering the interfaces file XD
nChomsky 2017-01-29 14:50:08
altering*
missmbob 2017-01-29 14:50:33
nChomsky: i asked. you said you had.
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:51:04
RickHull: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846900
judd 2017-01-29 14:51:05
Bug http://bugs.debian.org/846900 in src:libmateweather (closed, jessie): «mate-applets: fails to show weather of any city»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-12-04; last modified: 2016-12-17.
tomcres 2017-01-29 14:51:26
odd. the MATE weather applet works fine for my location.
nChomsky 2017-01-29 14:51:28
I said I restarted NetworkManager!
budder 2017-01-29 14:51:40
missmbob: debian desktop environment was selected by default, and then there were a number of other options and GNOME was one of them
nChomsky 2017-01-29 14:51:45
Well anyway, its done.
missmbob 2017-01-29 14:51:56
nChomsky: i said "reboot"
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:51:56
RickHull: there is a patch in the bug, so I guess I'll try get the jessie source and repackage it
nChomsky 2017-01-29 14:52:13
XP
missmbob 2017-01-29 14:52:18
budder: why do you keep telling me things i already know?
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:53:01
jscoder, that's probably the happy path. I can't tell from the ticket why the package isn't available yet for jessie
budder 2017-01-29 14:53:04
missmbob: because i'm confused. if GNOME is the debian desktop environment, then why was there another option to select GNOME when debian desktop was already selected?
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:53:54
RickHull: apparently nobody thought it was important enough to solve.. technically debian policy is for security fixes, this is a broken package due to changes in a non-debian service, that falls under the no warranty clause.. heh
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:53:57
before the bug was closed (i think because it is fixed upstream) the last message about jessie was: Both builds do not FTBFS.
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:54:03
not sure what FTBFS means
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:54:14
RickHull: since its fixed upstream they're just wating on the next release to address it
missmbob 2017-01-29 14:54:27
budder: you dont need to. it's just trying to make things easy so new users dont end up without a DE
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:54:27
yeah, makes sense enough
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:54:31
what FTBFS?
budder 2017-01-29 14:54:53
missmbob: oh okay, got it
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:54:54
fails to build Fsomething Ssomething?
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:55:17
RickHull: fuck this, better find someone-who-cares ? heh
Hello71 2017-01-29 14:55:22
something already starts with s
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:55:37
fix the bug fer sure
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:56:01
Hello71, s/something/____/
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:58:13
RickHull: https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/FTBFS
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:58:52
but what does it meeeeeaaaaaannnnnnn?
jscoder 2017-01-29 14:59:18
dpkg, ftbfs
dpkg 2017-01-29 14:59:19
[ftbfs] Failure To Build From Source. ~ round and round the buildd goes / where it stops... nobody knows / FTBFS! ... it blows / how I hate the night ~
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:59:28
!botsnack
dpkg 2017-01-29 14:59:28
thanks, RickHull
RickHull 2017-01-29 14:59:42
jscoder, so, patch is not the happy path apparently
RickHull 2017-01-29 15:00:30
i would think you could just do a string substitution on the source with a new URL maybe
RickHull 2017-01-29 15:00:39
i assume the real fix is to make it a config option
RickHull 2017-01-29 15:00:52
hardcoded URLs and hostnames... heh
jscoder 2017-01-29 15:03:50
RickHull: looking at the patch there is more involved than just the URL, its not exactly the same.. and the second patch is only to rename a timezone in asia, Mike says with both patches the FTBFS is gone
budder 2017-01-29 15:04:08
guys, i have an SSD with Windows on it and an HDD for files. Windows is on my SSD and I am trying to install Debian alongside it. For the boot loader, do I install on the SSD also?
RickHull 2017-01-29 15:04:18
oh, ok -- I just skimmed it and the format makes my eyes bleed
budder 2017-01-29 15:04:30
other options are my other drives, and "enter device manually"
RickHull 2017-01-29 15:04:53
budder, tread carefully. linux and windows can each make the other unbootable
jscoder 2017-01-29 15:04:55
budder: you'd want the boot loader on whichever is the boot device which from what it sounds like is your ssd
jscoder 2017-01-29 15:05:28
windows never had a bootloader really, it just installs a chainloader, its bootloader is on the partition
jscoder 2017-01-29 15:06:16
grub or lilo or such can chainload as well as anything
jscoder 2017-01-29 15:11:58
RickHull: apparently they did fix the package, I installed libmateweather1 1.8.0-2+deb8u1 and removed my weather applet and put it back and now it works
jscoder 2017-01-29 15:12:57
RickHull: whats strange is, I installed this system from D-I and it didn't even have libmateweather1 or libmateweather-common installed even though I had mate installed
RickHull 2017-01-29 15:15:25
huh, nice.
budder 2017-01-29 15:15:30
thanks all for the help
