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Saturday, January 28, 2017

#debian channel featuring unborn, judd, TheChubu, RayzrShrp, Plushwolf, TomTomTo1, and 9 others.

TomTomTo1 2017-01-28 10:45:16
Plushwolf: the latter. release will be roughly six months after full freeze.
TomTomTo1 2017-01-28 10:46:17
Plushwolf: https://release.debian.org/stretch/freeze_policy.html
Mitchell92 2017-01-28 10:46:19
njimiuo, its using a MBR partition style.
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:46:26
TomTomTo1: Okay, then it will be officially released 6 months after the full freeze? I understand the full freeze that security holes and bugs that's not known (yet) will be fixed until it's official release announcement.
TomTomTo1 2017-01-28 10:47:52
that's right.
njimiuo 2017-01-28 10:48:27
Mitchell92: have you verified your iso?
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:48:46
hi! i have a kinda general question
Mitchell92 2017-01-28 10:49:02
njimiuo, I'm about to use a different utility and try it again.
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:49:15
the other day i mounted a Win7 x64 VM on an i5 4440, i gave it 4Gb of RAM
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:49:22
it was kiiinda slow, is it normal?
njimiuo 2017-01-28 10:49:27
Mitchell92: try any of those https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-windows
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:49:38
thing is the CPU usage wasnt high, so my suspect is the integrated Intel 4600
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:49:51
TomTomTo1: Okay, thank you very much. I'd like to use the debian-stretch-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso image (my chipset requires a 4.5+ kernel). Is it possible to use that instead of stable? It will become stable automatically by time, no? And I don't have any problems and have the knowledge of fixing broken stuff :)
TomTomTo1 2017-01-28 10:51:03
Plushwolf: the recommended way to get testing is using the stable installer to install a minimal image and upgrading it right after.
antisaint 2017-01-28 10:51:10
relating to my issue, vnc (also not at boot) has [ 7.238030] systemd[1]: [/etc/systemd/system/x11vnc.service:10] Unknown lvalue 'Restart-sec' in section 'Service' in dmesg
TomTomTo1 2017-01-28 10:51:19
s/minimal image/minimal system/
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:51:49
TomTomTo1: Oh, you mean I should install stable and changing the sources.list from jessie to stretch?
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:51:52
And upgrade after?
TomTomTo1 2017-01-28 10:51:54
Plushwolf: and yes, you can keep tracking stretch while it makes the transition to stable.
TomTomTo1 2017-01-28 10:52:59
Plushwolf: yes. you can try the testing installer, but it's not guaranteed to work. it is, after all, not a released product.
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:53:06
TomTomTo1: I've tried that on a testing machine, my network card names (ethX) got weird names like ensXdXfXwhatever after the upgrade
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:53:40
But I've never used the stretch installer before, I could try
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:55:03
But I think (or hope) that this is normal
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:55:36
yeah, i remember after some update interfaces got those names.
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:55:55
cant quite recall which particular thing was the culprit.
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:56:08
it works the same, its just harder to remember :D
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:56:14
i think it was some security thing, not sure :/
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:56:17
I think this is caused by a kernel option change or so
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:56:18
in 4.x
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:56:48
Other distributions have this too after they've upgraded to 4.x
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 10:58:33
Is someone running a costum kernel here? I have a question
TheChubu 2017-01-28 10:58:36
yeah, you're probably right
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:05:53
Is it normal that my lspcu output still says "Intel whatever Device a123" (for example) even with my upgraded jessie->stretch install?
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:06:31
Every device ends up with "device xxxx"
awal1 2017-01-28 11:08:13
paste full output :P
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:09:20
When I start the Stretch Installer and enter a terminal within the installer and enter lspci I have "00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H Thermal subsystem (rev 31)" for example, in my jessie->stretch upgraded system I still only see the device id's
missmbob 2017-01-28 11:11:22
sudo update-pciids
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:12:30
Oh
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:12:33
Thank you very much
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:17:14
What about the interface names? Is there a way to rename them?
unborn 2017-01-28 11:23:04
,v apticron
judd 2017-01-28 11:23:05
Package: apticron on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.1.55; jessie: 1.1.57; sid: 1.1.61; stretch: 1.1.61
ToiLTP 2017-01-28 11:28:25
How do I install steamcmd on debian?
ToiLTP 2017-01-28 11:34:03
anyone in here?
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:34:42
Plushwolf: The naming convention for network devices is changing so that they're more consistent between boots. The name should indicate what bus a device is on, whether it's embedded, etc.
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:34:43
maybe
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:34:50
!steam
dpkg 2017-01-28 11:34:51
Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in ; amd64 users are required to enable and install the steam:i386 package. For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. http://wiki.debian.org/Steam
awal1 2017-01-28 11:34:52
,v steamcmd
judd 2017-01-28 11:34:53
No package named 'steamcmd' was found in amd64.
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:35:14
jhebden: Okay, I didn't really understood what that means, but thanks :D
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:35:40
Plushwolf: It's to make it easier for systems that have a bunch of interfaces.
ToiLTP 2017-01-28 11:35:48
!steamcmd
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:35:54
Ah, okay
nkuttler 2017-01-28 11:36:02
ToiLTP: download it
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:36:05
does anybody knows how could I pile the result of a 'find' to vlc?
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:36:14
im guessing a one liner wouldnt be enough
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:36:17
jhebden: Is there a tool or so to change its names for humans for human readable?
ToiLTP 2017-01-28 11:36:21
here they say to apt-get install it, https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD#Linux
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:36:23
Cause I have 10 or so here o_O
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:36:24
The ones I work with typically have two fiberchannel interfaces, for gigabit ethenets, and one out-of-band ethernet for remote management.
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:36:38
s/for/four/
nkuttler 2017-01-28 11:36:43
TheChubu: depends on what the command should look like
ToiLTP 2017-01-28 11:36:50
nkuttler, how though?
nkuttler 2017-01-28 11:37:06
ToiLTP: vlc $(find whatever) ?
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:37:21
TheChubu: use the exec feature.
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:37:41
find exec vlc {}\;
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:37:55
TheChubu: Don't remmber if it's exec or -exec.
ToiLTP 2017-01-28 11:38:30
nkuttler, vlc?
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:38:54
jhebden: Any way to change the device names to human readble? like a config or so?
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:39:00
Plushwolf: I think there's a way to revert to the old names, and it's possible to havk it, but once you've set up your networking you don't care.
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:39:01
*readable
nkuttler 2017-01-28 11:39:08
ToiLTP: um, sorry. https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:39:41
jhutchins: wont that execute a vlc instance for each result?
nkuttler 2017-01-28 11:39:48
TheChubu: yeah
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:40:11
nkuttler: im just doing a find ./ -iname '*something*'
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:40:18
i think vlc can play stuff like
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:40:25
vlc "song1" "song2" "song3"
nkuttler 2017-01-28 11:40:30
TheChubu: vlc $(find whatever)
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:40:36
ill try
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:40:37
Plushwolf: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:41:05
TheChubu: I think vlc queues multiple calls, but you might hvae to try and see.
jhutchins 2017-01-28 11:41:20
TheChubu: I don't know how vlc does playlists.
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:41:24
Thanks jhutchins
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:41:31
they need the quotes
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:41:47
otherwise a space inbetween the names makes each word into a separate file
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:41:52
TheAvatar: vlc "/path/to/files/*"
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:42:05
whops
Plushwolf 2017-01-28 11:42:10
TheChubu: ^
TheChubu 2017-01-28 11:42:27
they're not all in the same directory obviously :D
RayzrShrp 2017-01-28 11:44:58
can anybody help point me in the right direction to get iptables logging to a file?