TomTomTo1 2017-01-26 16:47:21
hmuller: why do you think that? the debian policy describes Recommends as "declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency." recommends are automatically installed with the default apt configuration and both packagey have a high priority anyway, so the debian installer pulls them both.
hmuller 2017-01-26 16:50:16
TomTomto1: based on what I read, debconf (which is required) can't do it's magic very will without apt-extracttemplates
TomTomTo1 2017-01-26 16:59:40
maybe. but debconf specifically handles the case of apt-utils not being installed, so i suspect there is some reasoning to that. you could message the maintainer if you are curious.
TomTomTo1 2017-01-26 16:59:52
https://sources.debian.net/src/debconf/1.5.60/dpkg-preconfigure/?hl=130#L130
TomTomTo1 2017-01-26 16:59:59
line 130 does the checking.
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:26:23
Erm
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:26:41
https://my.mixtape.moe/yvpkrw.jpg So this is what happens when I try to boot from a Debian CD.
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:26:57
Then it hangs.
hmuller 2017-01-26 17:33:00
TomTom1: sorry for delay, didn't see your reply. line 130 shows that it handles it by delaying configuration, with a normal exit
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:33:02
XeonSquared: you actually burned a cd?
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:33:38
missmbob: yes?
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:33:42
XeonSquared: i didnt know that could get fucked up. different arch? amrf instead of amd?
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:33:54
i386
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:34:05
so 686 installer?
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:34:14
I guess so
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:34:21
well let's find out so
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:35:35
hash checks out
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:35:41
i686 should support a Pentium II...
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:35:47
exact name of iso
AlexLikeRock 2017-01-26 17:35:48
XeonSquared, Memori RAM FAIL
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:36:12
debian-8.5.0-i386-netinst.iso
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:36:22
AlexLikeRock: It booted Haiku fine
AlexLikeRock 2017-01-26 17:36:40
do a memorie test
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:36:54
I'll look into it
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:36:57
it's an idea. dont know quite what else
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:38:44
Testing 384M RAM on a 350Mhz CPU won't be fun
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:38:49
Will Debian 9 upgrade to the 51.x series of Firefox?
XeonSquared 2017-01-26 17:38:57
I'll write it to a partition and see if I can make the Haiku bootloader look at it.
AlexLikeRock 2017-01-26 17:39:25
starstuff, debian use FIREFOX-ESR
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:39:40
AlexLikeRock: Yes, I know.
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:39:52
starstuff: hard to say. i'd guess yes
AlexLikeRock 2017-01-26 17:40:05
its no same like "firefox"
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:40:05
when will the next esr be released?
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:40:20
trying to phrase my question the right way
somiaj 2017-01-26 17:41:51
starstuff: mozilla.debian.net will most likely provide firefox-release (Current version) for stretch-backports
somiaj 2017-01-26 17:42:18
starstuff: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/
somiaj 2017-01-26 17:43:22
starstuff: debian seccurity will use firefox-esr for security updates. So sometime in say May or after firefox esr 52.x will replace 45.x, and debian stretch will use that when a security concern in the current esr branch requires a fix, and the fix is upgarde the newest esr release.
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:43:25
oh good. soon. March!
missmbob 2017-01-26 17:43:34
51 is in incomingg but it's not esr so. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/45.3.0/releasenotes/
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:43:52
new firefox esr in March
somiaj 2017-01-26 17:43:55
debian wno't swithc over until after the qualitifying phase, mozilla has dropped support from esr 45.x and there is a security hole.
somiaj 2017-01-26 17:44:15
that may be true, but there is a qualifing phase for bugs and debian only changes versions when they have too
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:44:16
i'm using esr 45.x
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:44:23
what do you mean mozilla dropped support for it?
AlexLikeRock 2017-01-26 17:44:40
45.6.0 ESR
somiaj 2017-01-26 17:44:44
if you want a newer firefox, use firefox-release, which will be provided by mozilla.debian.net (for jessie, and eventaully for stretch)
somiaj 2017-01-26 17:44:53
you can get firefox-release for stretch right now using the sid package
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:45:03
interesting
starstuff 2017-01-26 17:45:14
what is "firefox-release"
