somiaj 2017-01-30 14:45:34
I've also seen people upgrade the mesa to backports, for better opengl, but since your hardware isn't natively supported choice is yours while you wait for stretch
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:45:51
hmm..
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:46:08
nauticalnexus: note testing seems to have less omg bugs than sid since packages have to live in sid for 10 days before making it to stretch, so sid users are the first gunipigs
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:46:26
guinea pigs? :P
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:46:26
nauticalnexus: though testing has other issues, but since transitions are all complete, no transitions to worry about, leaving mostly the security problem.
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:46:33
nauticalnexus: yea
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:46:41
I was told testing has the worst security out of the three
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:46:48
and I like my security.
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:46:51
it does, due to that 10 day wait in sid
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:46:53
so I went to unstable
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:47:10
unstable will more likely run across bugs that break things
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:47:20
I've experienced that sadly.
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:47:23
you can't really win with #debian-next, it jsut depends what you want to deal with.
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:47:38
I just don't know what to use anymore.
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:48:09
but as stretch gets closer and closer to a release, it gets more and more like stable should be...and testing does get grave security issues put into it, the recent security issues I've seen were pushed through sid really quickly
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:48:21
nauticalnexus: I use jessie on my work machines and stretch on my home gaming desktop
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:48:47
somiaj, does said desktop have skylake?
nikfarm 2017-01-30 14:49:25
anyone?
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:50:13
nauticalnexus: no, on my gaming machine I've always used nvidia, as I have had very little problems with the nvidia drivers...only time I had problems, turned out to be the card which I got replaced via an RMA
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:50:14
somiaj, OH I have a rather new Intel wifi card and.. last time I tried Jessie it didn't read it.
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:50:27
same thing you can get newer kernel and firmware from jessie-backports
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:50:48
somiaj, can I have backports enabled in the netinst iso?
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:50:50
nauticalnexus: you'll need a lot from backports to run your newer hardware, but still the majority of your system will be stable.
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:50:52
and it's nonfree firmware :o
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:51:00
you can't during the install, you have to manually install them afterwards
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:51:33
I have to do things? uuuughhh :P
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:51:48
nauticalnexus: there also isn't a firmware installer for stretch, yet
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:52:18
but that's how I installed Debian on this laptop :O
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:52:56
nauticalnexus: when one's hardware sint' supported...you gotta make a choice what works best for you, or just wait
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:53:01
!stretch pool1
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:53:06
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/stretch_di_rc1/amd64/bt-cd/
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:53:07
!stretch pool 1
dpkg 2017-01-30 14:53:08
! cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbīlen=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themíll=2017-05-01
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:53:26
nauticalnexus: is it actually out there, someone looked eariler and couldn't find an actoual image.
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:53:37
yeah
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:53:39
for the netinst
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:53:46
which is what I always use anyway :P
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:53:55
that's the link to it. rc1
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:54:07
with non-free firmware
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:54:07
nauticalnexus: bt-cd might just be bittorrent files, does it actually download an iso? Anyways, my guess for stretch is june/july give or take a month
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:54:17
yes indeed
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:54:31
here the iso link https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/stretch_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:55:03
I mean it exists. I just search hard for things ;P
somiaj 2017-01-30 14:55:48
nauticalnexus: maybe it will work, (:
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:56:02
I've used the alpha 7 one before :P
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:56:16
my server is on Stretch. Because I was dumb at the time lol
nauticalnexus 2017-01-30 14:56:39
part of me is like "nooo not fixed releases again!" lol
awal1 2017-01-30 15:33:43
,v firestarter
judd 2017-01-30 15:33:44
Package: firestarter on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.3-11
hmuller 2017-01-30 15:36:36
any recommendations for apt-cacher-ng drive space?
awal1 2017-01-30 15:40:42
is there any tool like apt-listbugs security advisories (security bugs) specific?
