Nematocyst 2017-01-27 05:45:31
ofc, ejecting the drive DOESNT fix the problem
teraflops 2017-01-27 05:46:42
Nematocyst: lsmod
Nematocyst 2017-01-27 05:46:42
i can find where the real icons are by creating a selection rectangle over the desktop. the real icons get hilighted
teraflops 2017-01-27 05:46:53
grep for nvidia or nouveau
Nematocyst 2017-01-27 05:53:55
in xorg.0.log, the entries mostly stop at time index 80.xxx, then i get some much later at 3758.xxx. i don't know if those are the result of drive insertion. they complain about not supporting nvidia 3d vision stereo. however similar entries exist up to 80.xxx. don't see any obvious problems
Nematocyst 2017-01-27 05:54:38
oh, and it's clearly nvidia driver. not nouveau
Nematocyst 2017-01-27 05:56:28
i see from dmesg that those entries are not the result of drive insertion which occured at 5695.xxx
Nematocyst 2017-01-27 05:57:50
i'm sure i switched from nouveau at some point for a reason. can't remember what that was. how do i go back?
userro 2017-01-27 06:18:27
Hello, I can't run 'deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stretch main' because I don't have deb package. How to get it?
jolt 2017-01-27 06:20:52
userro: It's not a command, thats a line that should be in /etc/apt/sources.list
userro 2017-01-27 06:21:14
oh lol
userro 2017-01-27 06:21:18
ok
userro 2017-01-27 06:21:28
thanks
jolt 2017-01-27 06:22:05
and it should be pre-populated if you run stretch already
jolt 2017-01-27 06:22:16
Not sure what you are trying to do though
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:22:39
i have all 3 disks extracted out on my desktop, now how do i add packages from it to my OS? can anyone help please
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:22:58
userro: before helping userro shoot themselves in the foot, yes, it would be good to get an idea of what they're trying to do :)
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:23:35
userro: generally you don't want to run stretch unless you absolutely know what you're doing. if you just want some newer packages, jessie-backports may be better for your case. please explain to us what you want to accomplish today.
outpox 2017-01-27 06:23:45
Hey there! I'm using Cinnamon on a Debian Wheezy and I've got trouble setting up my dual screen. Am I in the right chan? I asked on #linuxmint-help but I was redirected there. Also I couldn't find a dedicated Cinnamon channel except the devs one.
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:23:59
er, jolt: before helping ... ^^
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:24:04
brain fart
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:24:31
outpox: give it a try. some of us use cinnamon
outpox 2017-01-27 06:24:48
Alright
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:25:01
outpox: explain what you want to do, what you tried, what you expected, and what happened instead.
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:25:14
outpox: use paste.debian.net for any config snippets / output
outpox 2017-01-27 06:25:26
oki doki!
userro 2017-01-27 06:25:49
SynrG, jolt, I trying to install ca-certificates-mono. I can't find it in 'apt list' so I'm downloading it from https://packages.debian.org/stretch/all/ca-certificates-mono/download
userro 2017-01-27 06:25:59
I'm *
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:26:07
,v ca-certificates-mono
judd 2017-01-27 06:26:09
Package: ca-certificates-mono on amd64 -- stretch: 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-8; stretch: 4.6.2.7+dfsg-1; sid: 4.6.2.7+dfsg-1
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:26:28
,checkbackport ca-certificates-mono
judd 2017-01-27 06:26:29
Backporting package ca-certificates-mono in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:27:29
userro: i would recommend against including a stretch deb line in your stable system's /etc/apt/sources.list. perhaps just download the deb and install with dpkg -i .deb
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:27:47
if it's just a file containing some certs ...
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:27:51
probably installs fine on jessie
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:28:08
ah, hmm. i'm wrong.
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:28:13
!ssb
dpkg 2017-01-27 06:28:13
First, check for a backport on . If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about 2) enable debian-backports (see ) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see ; for versions newer than sid see .
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:28:28
userro: you could follow the procedure above to make your own backport ^
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:28:52
looks like the package contains some executables as well. so i have no idea if those would 'just work' on jessie or not, without rebuilding from source
outpox 2017-01-27 06:29:01
So I'm using Cinnamon and I wanted to add a taskbar on my 2nd monitor. My setup is as follow: dual screen side by side with the main screen being right one. From what I found by googling, I should be able to right click my current (and only) taskbar/panel and click "Add panel" to spawn it on the 2nd screen. The issue is that I can't find such a button... :| So had any one of you the same issue?
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:29:48
outpox: aha. so that could be because the version of cinnamon in jessie is old-ish compared to what people are writing about out there on the web
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:29:52
,v cinnamon
judd 2017-01-27 06:29:53
Package: cinnamon on amd64 -- jessie: 2.2.16-5; jessie-backports: 3.0.4-2~bpo8+1; sid: 3.2.7-1; stretch: 3.2.7-1
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:30:03
i have all 3 disks extracted out on my desktop, now how do i add packages from it to my OS? can anyone help please
outpox 2017-01-27 06:30:07
Oh yeah I had not tought of that
outpox 2017-01-27 06:30:16
I'll check my cinnamon version, thanks
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:30:17
jessie's way back at 2.2.16. there is a backport of that, though ...
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:30:31
i've not used the backport, mind you, so can't vouch for it.
awal1 2017-01-27 06:30:47
outpox, check if your panel have an option something like "show in all monitors"like fbpanel/tint2 does
outpox 2017-01-27 06:30:51
Well I'll report if it works :P
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:31:11
note that even the backport isn't the latest. stretch has 3.2.7 (vs the backport 3.0.4)
outpox 2017-01-27 06:31:29
awal1 : I doesn't recall having seen that option, I'll recheck tough
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:31:32
outpox: jessie was the first release to include cinnamon, though, so things may have been rough/incomplete
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:32:42
RajRajRaj: i can't even begin to comprehend what you're actually trying to do ...
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:32:59
RajRajRaj: can you elaborate, please?
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:33:15
SynrG: i have all three dvd of debian 8.6 i want to install packages form them
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:33:18
thats it
userro 2017-01-27 06:33:25
I j
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:33:31
userro: ?
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:33:34
RajRajRaj: oh. all 3 *install* disks. gotcha
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:33:39
yes
userro 2017-01-27 06:33:41
sorry ignore it
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:33:45
ok
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:34:22
also my laptop is over heating, i quickly want to install something to prevent such thing
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:34:32
i dont know why its continuously heating
jolt 2017-01-27 06:35:09
maybe powertop can help
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:35:35
i don't know if this is *the* way to do it, but the apt-utils package has apt-ftparchive, which can be used to make an apt source from a pile of files in a directory
userro 2017-01-27 06:36:05
I just want to run a bot using mono. It is giving me certificate errors when I run it. "received invalid certificate from the server" like that. I can visit that website using Chrome and it doesn't give any errors. I don't understand why mono thinks it is invalid.
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:37:40
RajRajRaj: is the laptop very new?
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:37:53
i mean, made within the last year or so?
outpox 2017-01-27 06:38:04
Gotta restart cinnamon to apply the changes, brb
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:38:13
RajRajRaj: you may need backprots of the kernel and/or graphics drivers for newer models
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:38:15
SynrG: yes
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:38:16
backports*
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:38:23
RajRajRaj: what graphics chipset?
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:38:29
nvidia
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:38:37
,v nvidia-driver
judd 2017-01-27 06:38:38
Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.101-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.101-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 375.26-1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 375.26-1; sid/non-free: 375.26-2
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:38:41
,kernels
judd 2017-01-27 06:38:42
Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.15-2~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1)
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:38:49
!jessie-backports
dpkg 2017-01-27 06:38:49
Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about .
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:39:07
what is that
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:39:27
RajRajRaj: ^ you can set up jessie-backports as per above, then install the kernel & nvidia-driver from that
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:40:14
i am new
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:40:17
the install DVD images will be no help for that
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:40:22
i understand really nothing
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:40:28
generally, people install from the net anyway.
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:40:43
do you have a very poor/slow internet connection?
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:41:02
no
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:41:29
RajRajRaj: you should add the jessie-backports line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file as per the instructions above (as root)
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:41:58
RajRajRaj: once you've done that, 'apt update', and then 'apt install -t jessie-backports linux-image-amd64 nvidia-driver'
outpox 2017-01-27 06:42:15
I'm back and installing the cinnamon package from jessie-backports solved my issue, thanks!
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:42:19
that will give you updated kernel & nvidia driver.
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:42:21
no apt-get?
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:42:28
'apt' is fine. new front-end
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:42:58
nice :)
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:42:59
apt-get is still there and you can use it if you prefer ... but apt is nicer.
outpox 2017-01-27 06:43:34
apt shows a progress installation bar at the bottom of the terminal when installing packages :p
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:43:36
where does screen shot gets stored?
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:43:52
it is showing 100% always
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:43:55
idk why
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:43:59
RajRajRaj: did you install the nvidia driver from non-free or just the default nouveau driver from main?
userro 2017-01-27 06:44:13
yes, I also prefer apt. I only use apt-get when I copy the command from someone else
userro 2017-01-27 06:44:23
somewhere
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:44:40
i installed firmware-realtek_0.43_all.deb
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:44:49
guess its not working
RajRajRaj 2017-01-27 06:45:00
probably its not even related to nvidia
SynrG 2017-01-27 06:45:09
unrelated to nvidia, correct.
