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Friday, January 27, 2017

#debian channel featuring cyphix, TvL2386, petn-randall, n4dir, darxmurf, tsglove, and 8 others.

petn-randall 2017-01-27 03:47:10
jelly: Works fine here on irssi.
petn-randall 2017-01-27 03:47:53
jelly: Even if you have an existing query it'll switch to it and send that message.
cyphix 2017-01-27 03:50:39
My university provides remote disks accessible with vpn. The address is smb//... I am connected with the vpn, but I don't know how to mount the disk. What is the command to use?
TvL2386 2017-01-27 03:51:36
cyphix, I think you need smbclient to mount it
cyphix 2017-01-27 03:52:23
I have that indeed, but I don't know the exact command
TvL2386 2017-01-27 03:52:59
reading about it and you might also be able to use mount.cifs
TvL2386 2017-01-27 03:53:13
mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt --verbose -o user=username
TvL2386 2017-01-27 03:53:54
man mount.cifs
watmm 2017-01-27 03:55:17
Wondering why even after a reboot Committed_AS in /proc/meminfo can be higher than CommitLimit with vm.overcommit_memory set to 0, yet the oom-killer isn't killing anything. Anyone familiar?
cyphix 2017-01-27 03:55:30
TvL2386: Ok thank you, I'll try that
markit 2017-01-27 04:00:38
aptitude a b c installs a and c even if b is missing, while apt-get aborts... how to fix it?
zykotick9 2017-01-27 04:08:11
markit: i never noticed that. both apt-get and apt abort is a package is missing, while aptitude soldiers on with a warning. <- i'm not sure this is "broken," and thus you might not be able to "fix it"...
markit 2017-01-27 04:09:28
zykotick9: my bad :(
markit 2017-01-27 04:10:19
I've a script to automate installation of some stuff, I used aptitude in the past,and some packages could be missing in the OS version I run the script so...
n4dir 2017-01-27 04:10:41
searching for ignore in man apt-get gives some results. I never used them and am not sure if they might help
zykotick9 2017-01-27 04:11:27
markit: perhaps switch to apt-get or apt for your script?
markit 2017-01-27 04:11:51
zykotick9: ? I'm USING apt-get, that is the problem
markit 2017-01-27 04:12:08
zykotick9: aptitude just ignored missing packages, apt-get instead aborts the entire stuff
zykotick9 2017-01-27 04:12:20
markit: oh, then aptitude? i though you didn't want the package to be ignored.
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:12:52
markit, you could just install the packages one by one and ignoring the apt-get that fails?
markit 2017-01-27 04:13:12
more complicated that simply find a switch, but seems that --ignore-missing does not work either
markit 2017-01-27 04:13:34
since aptitude worked so find about this, I think there is a way to do with apt too
n4dir 2017-01-27 04:14:12
yup, tested it, didn't work. should have tested before commenting, sorry
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:14:15
What would you suggest to manage a 6-7 workstation deployment of linux? I know Canonical has Landscape, yet looking for something non-paid. Not sure if Spacewalk would help?
newbie22 2017-01-27 04:14:26
can you install debian linux on a laptop ( Dell Inspiron 1521,
newbie22 2017-01-27 04:14:26
Windows Vista, 64-bit, 2 GB,
newbie22 2017-01-27 04:14:26
250 GB Hard Drive )
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:14:46
markit, I don't see a switch for apt-get to do what you want
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:15:03
markit, I also don't know the solution except doing them one by one...
sypher 2017-01-27 04:15:04
newbie22: Yes.
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:15:15
markit, however I think it is weird that you try to install a non-existent package
zykotick9 2017-01-27 04:15:24
TvL2386: +1
n4dir 2017-01-27 04:15:52
markit: well, if it's a script, you could put the to-be-installed-packages in an array, for i in pkg_list; if apt-cache show "$i"; then apt-get install "$i"; fi ;; or such
newbie22 2017-01-27 04:16:07
TvL2386: what do you mean by non-existent package
n4dir 2017-01-27 04:16:17
for in in "${pkg_list[@]}"; sorry
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:16:34
well, markit says that he is trying to do 'apt-get install a b c' where b does not exit
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:16:36
*exist
newbie22 2017-01-27 04:16:46
sypher: would I have to install it in dual boot mode or would it boot directly into linux ???
sypher 2017-01-27 04:17:00
newbie22: Either are options.
markit 2017-01-27 04:22:40
I understand the obvious workaround, just puzzled there is no flag that solves it automatically
markit 2017-01-27 04:22:47
but thanks :)
drot 2017-01-27 04:22:51
Hello, following this https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 I can send mail, but what about receiving mail?
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:23:21
tsglove, What do you actually want to manage on those workstations?
jackNemrod 2017-01-27 04:23:23
Can anyone help me in writing a part of my preseed file? I would like partman take /dev/sda as /boot and /dev/sdb for the LVM (whole disk). I don't understand how to do it
jackNemrod 2017-01-27 04:23:23
It's possible, isn't it?
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:24:10
markit, I am actually baffled that aptitude ignores non-existent packages
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:24:43
TvL2386, a way to ... well, basically try and imitate Microsoft's Active Directory.
c-c 2017-01-27 04:25:07
apt-get doesn't
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:25:22
User creation (so they can move from workstation to workstation, and have their files pulled from a server)... security. A way to "push updates" (or run update commands on each workstation).
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:25:45
tsglove, I use ansible for server management and I think it would be great for workstation management as well
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:26:02
tsglove, I even use it for my laptop and server@home management
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:26:06
Really? You think it can expand to workstations too? I am going to give it a go then.
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:26:25
tsglove, what's the difference between a workstation and a server and a laptop.... It's linux right
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:26:59
tsglove, even managing my dads stuff with ansible
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:27:06
he's never heard of it
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:27:21
Going to play with it now... awesome. =)
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:27:41
tsglove, yeah why not? Managing users on all workstations: check...
darxmurf 2017-01-27 04:28:16
cheers folks, have a good week-end
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:28:41
Super. I have a small client that I want to move over to linux. I think they're a great case, as they have zero applications... everything they do is web-based.
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:28:43
tsglove, I always think: ansible does what I can do manually by typing stuff through an ssh session. But in this case: it's documented, committed to git and if a new server/workstation pops up, it's running in no-time
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:29:24
tsglove, customer wants his farm extended with 3 servers: deploy template to vm, add hosts to ansible and run playbook...tada
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:30:30
ansible is great if you cannot remember everything you manually did
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:30:30
Great. I have been running Xubuntu for 2-3 years now. Yet I want to switch over to Debian. I keep on expanding on Linux
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:31:19
tsglove, I've been running ubuntu lts versions for years and switched from puppet to ansible
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:32:35
Yes... I have seen both. I was leaning over to ansible, yet haven't played with neither. Yet will go with ansible first thing.
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:32:35
tsglove, you have some ansible experience or are you kicking it off now?
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:32:46
kicking it off now
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:32:48
:)
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:33:28
my customer was so impressed by ansible, they have moved over their webapp deployments to ansible as well. Before it was just shell scripts
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:34:12
Superb. I want to keep on learning more of these technologies.
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:34:29
tsglove, you'll like that it's very easy to just start managing resources on machines. All you need is local ansible. The remote server normally has the dependencies (sshd & python)
TvL2386 2017-01-27 04:35:03
anyway: enough advertisement :)
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:35:15
Well I think I'm going to expand that management with ansible to about 10 raspberry pis I have all over the place. They all VPN back into a "central server"
tsglove 2017-01-27 04:35:43
installed Debian with XFCE in a small VM... like it so far. Will see if I can move over from xubuntu soon.