klys 2017-01-29 01:46:27
realies`, you should understand runlevels and how to use them to manage your services
themill 2017-01-29 01:46:45
klys: why?
realies` 2017-01-29 01:47:05
how's that related to separation of service from the bare os?
klys 2017-01-29 01:47:09
themill, the original question was how to separate your services from the kernel as such
themill 2017-01-29 01:47:29
no it wasn't (and it's not an answer to that question either)
realies` 2017-01-29 01:47:51
from what I've read I'd probably know when/how to start my services/container
realies` 2017-01-29 01:48:06
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klys 2017-01-29 01:48:07
the services are tied into the system and there is only the initialization process there to link them
themill 2017-01-29 01:48:41
realies`: what sort of separation are you trying to achieve and why?
realies` 2017-01-29 01:48:54
but what if for example I want to have an owncloud/seafile service on the box and want it to be running in isolation?
themill 2017-01-29 01:49:16
depends what "isolation" means
klys 2017-01-29 01:49:19
then you will need a custom initscript to start it that way
towo` 2017-01-29 01:49:20
then docker or lxc would fit your needs
realies` 2017-01-29 01:49:20
themill, mainly of security reasons, and the fact that if I get something wrong I won't have to deal with OS cleanup but container cleanup
realies` 2017-01-29 01:49:38
or perhaps container recreation
realies` 2017-01-29 01:50:11
klys, so far I've been putting things in bashrc :P
romancer 2017-01-29 01:50:43
realies`, FreSD jails.
klys 2017-01-29 01:50:44
realies`, the initscripts are symlinks from /etc/rc?.d/* to /etc/init.d/*
realies` 2017-01-29 01:51:17
romancer, I've heard about jails but though that's a BSD thing
klys 2017-01-29 01:51:18
you would put your initscript in there and affix it to the appropriate runlevel.
klys 2017-01-29 01:51:51
you would use it to initiate your chroot jail
realies` 2017-01-29 01:52:22
so chroot is similar to the bsd jail, right?
klys 2017-01-29 01:52:50
realies`, chroot is the bsd jail afaik. are you aware of a difference there between linux and bsd?
realies` 2017-01-29 01:53:25
not aware of the differences
klys 2017-01-29 01:53:52
in any case, when you start the process via chroot, your pid should still be visible to the rest of the system.
realies` 2017-01-29 01:59:24
so can processes from chroot get beyond chroot?
klys 2017-01-29 02:00:04
realies`, I really don't see how.
jklmnop1 2017-01-29 02:03:02
try google like "chroot escape"+2016 +poc or such
PhilMitSkill 2017-01-29 02:04:04
Hello
jklmnop1 2017-01-29 02:04:09
Well met
PhilMitSkill 2017-01-29 02:04:22
who it goesS
PhilMitSkill 2017-01-29 02:04:24
?
jklmnop1 2017-01-29 02:04:58
hm.. someone, surely.. yet to figure who exactly though. Working on that.
realies` 2017-01-29 02:11:46
chroot vs docker?
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:29:39
Hi, Please help me out with this... wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:29:53
I am using Debian 64 BIT
towo` 2017-01-29 02:29:53
context?
towo` 2017-01-29 02:30:13
if you want to run 32bit apps, you need to enable multiarch
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:30:18
I think i have Install sudo apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0 instead of 64 BIT
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:30:25
How I Enable ?
petn-randall 2017-01-29 02:30:27
!goal
dpkg 2017-01-29 02:30:28
Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:32:49
Actually I am installing Gseen And Stats Eggdrop there I got this error
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:32:56
wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
petn-randall 2017-01-29 02:37:08
RuGaL: Can you provide the full command you're running + the full output to give some context? You can paste it to http://paste.debian.net.
jim 2017-01-29 02:38:32
RuGaL, is eggdrop still tcl?
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:43:09
YES
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:43:19
Can't load modules gseen: /home/Statistics/eggdrop/modules/gseen.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
jim 2017-01-29 02:43:54
were they compiled before, and for a different arch?
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:44:35
No 1st time i am doing
RuGaL 2017-01-29 02:44:46
My VPS Is on 64 BIT DEBIAN
