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Thursday, January 26, 2017

#debian channel featuring ZtolenClothez, GPenguin, darxmurf, Xz, judd, dpkg, and 5 others.

ZtolenClothez 2017-01-25 20:45:28
I tried, can't give password. It stalls on the systemd event trying to load dm partitions
Vizva 2017-01-25 20:46:07
you could pack this partitions in lvm and try again
ZtolenClothez 2017-01-25 20:46:21
i can do the whole thing over yes
ZtolenClothez 2017-01-25 20:46:26
I know that
Vizva 2017-01-25 20:46:32
maybe it works then
ZtolenClothez 2017-01-25 20:46:43
it should but it's not my desire atm
ZtolenClothez 2017-01-25 20:47:25
removed more packages will reboot
Xz 2017-01-25 20:50:12
somiaj: I can disable secure boot, but then I would have to do it everytime I switch between USB-Linux and SSD-win10
Xz 2017-01-25 20:50:19
somiaj: too much work
Xz 2017-01-25 20:50:41
somiaj: especially that my bios needs to reboot and enter some number to turn off secure mode
Xz 2017-01-25 20:50:49
somiaj: = it takes 1+ min
Xz 2017-01-25 20:50:57
somiaj: and is supper unfriendly to do
Xz 2017-01-25 20:51:03
somiaj: I tried live-ubuntu
Xz 2017-01-25 20:51:21
somiaj: it kind of works, but then one day it just wouldn't let me ssh to my server
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:51:28
Then I would find a distro that supports secure boot and maybe has a good live system, debian isn't one of those.
Xz 2017-01-25 20:51:32
somiaj: ssh client after entering window would just hang
Xz 2017-01-25 20:51:50
somiaj: and I was even able to ssh to exact same system from my win10, everything on the server side was fine
Xz 2017-01-25 20:51:56
somiaj: that's what pisses me off about Ubuntu
Xz 2017-01-25 20:52:00
somiaj: random crap just doesn't work
Xz 2017-01-25 20:52:08
somiaj: I am very rarely disappointed by debian
Xz 2017-01-25 20:52:45
somiaj: well, I heard RHEL supports secure-boot
Xz 2017-01-25 20:52:49
somiaj: but RHEL is not free
Xz 2017-01-25 20:53:03
somiaj: and RHEL is more of a server type of distribution
Xz 2017-01-25 20:53:28
somiaj: other than that Fedora might work, but Fedora is similar to Ubuntu - random crap doesn't work sometimes
n1b 2017-01-25 20:53:36
DO you have to use bash when using debian?
Xz 2017-01-25 20:53:37
somiaj: debian nearly always work as expected
Xz 2017-01-25 20:53:49
n1b: I would prefer bash, why is that question ?
Xz 2017-01-25 20:54:05
n1b: do you have non-bash secure-boot enabled live debian distro by any chance? :)\
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:54:08
anyways, this has little to do with debian, and this is not the place to go on about. ##linux may have some suggestions for a secure boot live system.
Xz 2017-01-25 20:54:23
somiaj: well, I really want debian
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:54:26
n1b: no, you can install other shells.
Xz 2017-01-25 20:54:36
somiaj: so I thought maybe somebody here has any experience with live systems and secure boot
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:54:40
Xz: it doesn't support secure boot and the live system dosen't support efi. Deal with it.
Xz 2017-01-25 20:54:52
somiaj: well, I know people boot debian in secure mode
Xz 2017-01-25 20:55:04
somiaj: the fact that debian officialy doesn't support that doesn't mean it cannot be done
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:55:22
Xz: I'm sure it can be done with some modification, but out of the box and live systems will not support it. Live dosen't even support efi.
Xz 2017-01-25 20:55:24
somiaj: also, AFAIK around enf of January debian is actually planning on supporting secure boot
Xz 2017-01-25 20:55:32
somiaj: I'm fine with tinkering
Xz 2017-01-25 20:55:42
somiaj: I can go on my own and create live-distro from scratch
Xz 2017-01-25 20:55:54
somiaj: just looking for some guidance, not out-of-the-box solution
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:56:01
sure maybe one day, but this is a support chanell mostly for debian stable and what is supports, not tinkering. No need to continue on about this topic
Xz 2017-01-25 20:56:22
somiaj: where do I go then? debian on-line forum? stackoverflow?
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:56:57
Xz: unsure the best place to get some interest to help with this. First thing I would attempt is getting the live system to boot in efi, which it dosen't by default.
Xz 2017-01-25 20:57:33
somiaj: well, I can boot ubuntu fine, so what I would be looking to do from now on is to kick off debian system of ubuntu grub
Xz 2017-01-25 20:58:05
somiaj: ubuntu uses initramfs, boots small linux distro and then mounts full OS and does 'chroot'
Xz 2017-01-25 20:58:27
somiaj: from that small initramfs I could chroot into debian instead of ubuntu
Xz 2017-01-25 20:58:56
somiaj: technically it makes sense to do it that way
somiaj 2017-01-25 20:58:58
Xz: again this is not the right form to continue this conversation.
Xz 2017-01-25 21:01:07
somiaj: anyway, thanks for letting me know it's not supported
missmbob 2017-01-25 21:01:10
just keep an eye for bug #821053 ...not that i'll help with the live bit.
judd 2017-01-25 21:01:11
Bug http://bugs.debian.org/821053 in grub-installer (open, patch): «UEFI Secure Boot support in d-i build»; severity: important; opened: 2016-04-15; last modified: 2016-09-30.
Xz 2017-01-25 21:02:25
missmbob: thanks mate
Boompak 2017-01-25 21:04:48
make localmodconfig give me this warning 'module ath did not have configs CONFIG_ATH_COMMON'. What does this mean?
Vizva 2017-01-25 21:15:52
newer kernel now?
darxmurf 2017-01-25 21:19:53
I'm looging for a working documentation of how to configure samba+ldap+kerberos, any advises ?
Boompak 2017-01-25 21:21:17
Vizva: yes, I am trying to configure my kernel.
darxmurf 2017-01-25 21:21:57
and why now when I try to change a local account password, it's requesting the actual kerberos password ?!
n1b 2017-01-25 21:32:22
Is it better to dual boot Windows if you want to play games?
somiaj 2017-01-25 21:33:05
n1b: depends on what games and the likes
somiaj 2017-01-25 21:33:18
I play games in steam and wine just fine, but it is kinda selective which ones are avilable
GPenguin 2017-01-25 21:38:56
n1b: if you have enough disk space and a license for windows then i find the dual boot option the better one
n1b 2017-01-25 21:39:41
do you need to wipe linux first and then install windows?
somiaj 2017-01-25 21:40:24
you don't need to wipe linux, but if you install windows second you'll have to manually make your linux system bootable again
GPenguin 2017-01-25 21:40:25
i dont think you need to wipe linux, just re-install the boot manager from a livecd
somiaj 2017-01-25 21:40:27
!fixmbr
dpkg 2017-01-25 21:40:27
To reinstall boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also , , .
somiaj 2017-01-25 21:40:30
is a rough guide
GPenguin 2017-01-25 21:40:46
cool
GPenguin 2017-01-25 21:43:35
oh, i used to bind mount all 3, proc, dev and sys