jelly 2017-01-24 11:46:26
if done correctly, downtime is (time for final rsync + like 15 minutes to make the new VM bootable)
tw 2017-01-24 11:46:27
from experience, a tar-pipe will be faster for first pass, then rsync -c
tw 2017-01-24 11:46:43
or skip the -c and just do dates.
jelly 2017-01-24 11:46:46
it doesn't matter how long first pass is
tw 2017-01-24 11:47:25
that last bit depends on what the boss says. ;)
jelly 2017-01-24 11:47:41
only if they think it affects production
jelly 2017-01-24 11:48:51
cluelessperson: alternatively, _first_ make all the symlinks on the source relative without breaking anything
Heston 2017-01-24 11:51:57
hmm why doesnt apt warn you about installing packages that dont have security support
cluelessperson 2017-01-24 11:52:26
jelly, I cannot modify source.
jelly 2017-01-24 11:53:01
Heston: it doesn't know. Install debian-security-support if you need that info
Heston 2017-01-24 11:53:31
i mean, why wouldnt that be some kind of default behaviour
jelly 2017-01-24 11:54:13
that information isn't available in a consistent manner
jelly 2017-01-24 11:55:00
Heston: eg. if you add a third-party repo, there's no established API to ask if it has security support or not
jelly 2017-01-24 11:55:23
there's no such API for debian's own repos, either
Heston 2017-01-24 11:55:25
well sure, but we're about about debian and debian repos
Heston 2017-01-24 11:55:35
we're talking about*
Heston 2017-01-24 11:56:09
just seems like a really bad policy to let users blindly install packages without security updates/support
awal1 2017-01-24 11:58:13
youtube-dl: how to check playlist size before starting/without starting the download?
jelly 2017-01-24 11:59:07
Heston: and now you know how to avoid it.
awal1 2017-01-24 11:59:07
I want to download a plylist containing 1075 video files, but not sure if I have enough disk space :P
jelly 2017-01-24 11:59:35
Heston: which debian release do you have installed?
Heston 2017-01-24 11:59:44
jelly, why wouldnt that package be included in the minimal install though
Heston 2017-01-24 11:59:50
im using wheezy
jelly 2017-01-24 12:00:01
!wheezy-lts
dpkg 2017-01-24 12:00:01
Security support for Debian 7 "Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on 2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive additional long term support (LTS) via until 2018-05-31. See http://deb.li/2aC for excluded packages. No changes to /etc/apt/sources.list are needed for wheezy-lts.
tw 2017-01-24 12:00:59
awal1: it doesn't always know. yt's interface will often not give you filesizes for all stream types. from mucking around in the source, it doesn't know until it starts pulling what the expected size will be.
Heston 2017-01-24 12:01:44
Jelly, what does that even mean though. It does have support from the debian security team but it does have support through LTS
Heston 2017-01-24 12:01:56
it doesnt*
jelly 2017-01-24 12:02:06
Heston: your OS version is on LTS support. LTS team is separate from Debian Security Team, prioritizes some packages over others. This can't be default because LTS did not even exist when wheezy got released.
jelly 2017-01-24 12:02:26
yeah, pretty much
awal1 2017-01-24 12:02:54
tw, so if I start downloading I may be out of disk space say at file 600, ehm? (all the files have like 1 hour duration )
awal1 2017-01-24 12:03:19
I mean at any time I may be out of disk space
tw 2017-01-24 12:03:22
The good news is if you restart, youtube-dl will figure out which ones you already have and not re-download them.
awal1 2017-01-24 12:03:47
yeah, I know that
tw 2017-01-24 12:04:07
But yes, it doesn't know until it starts pulling a specific stream how big the filesize is.
awal1 2017-01-24 12:04:21
ok, thanks
jelly 2017-01-24 12:04:42
Heston: so you really ought to read LTS docs, https://wiki.debian.org/LTS and in particular https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using#Check_for_unsupported_packages says to install debian-security-support package to get this info
Heston 2017-01-24 12:05:47
jelly, ill check it out, thanks
jelly 2017-01-24 12:07:18
Heston: of course the best thing to do is a wheezy->jessie release upgrade if possible
Heston 2017-01-24 12:07:35
jelly, I needed the older kernel
jelly 2017-01-24 12:07:54
for... reasons?
Heston 2017-01-24 12:08:24
troubleshooting a hard lockup
nreville 2017-01-24 12:19:04
what's wrong with this subnet declaration?: subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {range 192.168.2.0 192.168.2.255;option routers 192.168.2.1;}
tw 2017-01-24 12:21:44
as I recall, isc-dhcp-server uses cidr notation. 192.168.2.0/24
tw 2017-01-24 12:22:40
but it's logout time for me, good luck.
nreville 2017-01-24 12:24:42
hm wiki says otherwise
nreville 2017-01-24 12:25:02
jesus I just wanna get dhcp working :/
jelly 2017-01-24 12:25:30
you don't want the dhcp range to pick .0 or .255 or the router's own address do you
tw 2017-01-24 12:25:33
change the range to go from .2 to .253
nreville 2017-01-24 12:30:03
jelly: tw: still getting failed error, No subnet declaration for eth0 (no IPv4 addresses)
jelly 2017-01-24 12:36:22
nreville: and you have eth0 in /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server INTERFACES= ?
nreville 2017-01-24 12:37:05
INTERFACES="eth0" yep
jelly 2017-01-24 12:37:37
nreville: and eth0 has an IP configured and up in 192.168.2.0/24 segment?
S3XU4Lharassment 2017-01-24 12:38:01
Hi. I am here to sexually harass people.
nreville 2017-01-24 12:38:22
wew^
nreville 2017-01-24 12:38:29
eh, how do I check jelly?
jelly 2017-01-24 12:38:57
nreville: "ip a" or "ifconfig eth0"
nreville 2017-01-24 12:39:46
hmm nope doesn't give ipv4 in eth0 anywhere
nreville 2017-01-24 12:39:53
how do I set it up?
jelly 2017-01-24 12:43:32
nreville: pastebin the output of your "ip r" and "ip a" for a start, please
jelly 2017-01-24 12:43:39
use http://paste.debian.net
