contrapunctus 2017-01-26 02:45:25
unborn: I'm not 'the dev' (of what?)
contrapunctus 2017-01-26 02:45:49
oh, +q.
themill 2017-01-26 02:48:27
ws2k3: so what does "readlink -f /usr/bin/editor" say?
ws2k3 2017-01-26 02:48:58
themill /bin/nano
themill 2017-01-26 02:49:53
ws2k3: is it just crontab -e or is there more to it? is sudo involved?
ws2k3 2017-01-26 02:50:14
the mibo sudo not involved yes its just crontab -e
ws2k3 2017-01-26 02:50:26
themill i think it has something to do with sensible-editor
ws2k3 2017-01-26 02:50:39
themill /usr/bin/sensible-editor
themill 2017-01-26 02:51:01
do you have a ~/.selected_editor ?
ws2k3 2017-01-26 02:51:08
themill yeah found it ^^
ws2k3 2017-01-26 02:51:12
themill there is the problem
themill 2017-01-26 02:51:14
:)
andre144k 2017-01-26 02:55:17
hi all - is it possible to change umask for a special directory automaticly?
andre144k 2017-01-26 02:55:57
mayby to create all files with 600 instead of 664?
tw 2017-01-26 02:57:48
you can do it with acls, but I don't know that it is possible with umask
andre144k 2017-01-26 02:58:09
oki - i alreadythought so...
graps 2017-01-26 03:00:52
Hi all
tw 2017-01-26 03:01:28
andre144k: If I remember correctly, it'd be something like setfacl -d -m u::rwX,g::rwX,o::rX directory
contrapunctus 2017-01-26 03:02:08
Okay - I'm now using 'dpkg-query -W -f '${Package;-30}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -n -k 2' - how can I make the Installed-Size be presented in a human-readable format?
tw 2017-01-26 03:02:12
and that will cascade into subdirectories.
graps 2017-01-26 03:02:46
How do I check the programs that use RAM besides using free ?
contrapunctus 2017-01-26 03:03:00
graps: top, htop
graps 2017-01-26 03:03:13
contrapunctus: Thanks !
tw 2017-01-26 03:03:13
or ps, but the syntax is less easy.
graps 2017-01-26 03:04:23
tw: Thanks
contrapunctus 2017-01-26 03:05:18
(like df -h or du -h)
graps 2017-01-26 03:05:51
contrapunctus: Right
themill 2017-01-26 03:05:51
contrapunctus: you could probably make an awk monstronsity for that...
zykotick9 2017-01-26 03:06:31
contrapunctus: fyi, if you're interested in the size of installed packages you might be intereted in the 'dpigs' program in the debian-goodies package
jelly 2017-01-26 03:07:22
!sort by size
dpkg 2017-01-26 03:07:22
sort by size is, like, aptitude search ~i -O installsize -F"%p %I", or see , or see
graps 2017-01-26 03:07:34
contrapunctus or tw: Can I manipulate RAM usage for running programs using ps ? I want to allocate different RAM usage, is that possible ?
jelly 2017-01-26 03:07:46
graps: no
graps 2017-01-26 03:08:11
jelly: The kernel manages apps/programs RAM usage ?
jelly 2017-01-26 03:08:23
ps only displays info.
jelly 2017-01-26 03:08:38
processes themselves ask for memory
graps 2017-01-26 03:09:21
jelly: How about nice or renice ? Can they allocate RAM ?
jelly 2017-01-26 03:09:36
again, only processes themselves do it.
n4dir 2017-01-26 03:09:45
ps_mem.py is a nice way to get info about Ram usage
jelly 2017-01-26 03:11:55
graps: you can however attach a debugger and then massage the internals of a process
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:12:13
graps: Tell us about your big picture goal. What do you want to achieve?
jelly 2017-01-26 03:12:47
but even if you make a process do some more sbrk() it's still done inside that process
jelly 2017-01-26 03:13:35
,i smem
judd 2017-01-26 03:13:36
Package smem (utils, extra) in jessie/amd64: memory reporting tool. Version: 1.4-2; Size: 10.1k; Installed: 61k; Homepage: http://www.selenic.com/smem/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/smem
jelly 2017-01-26 03:13:50
graps: ^^ may find that one interesting as well
graps 2017-01-26 03:14:58
petn-randall: I'd like to work with existing RAM and find out what's using up RAM at any given time. For instance, if I have 512MB and 490MB is being used, how do I read the top to find them ?
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:15:30
graps: Use htop, and sort by RAM.
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:15:33
also:
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:15:36
!linux ate my ram
n4dir 2017-01-26 03:15:48
graps: ps_mem.py does that pretty well
graps 2017-01-26 03:16:20
n4dir: I downloaded it from codewiz. Is it Debian-ready ?
zykotick9 2017-01-26 03:16:27
!atemyram
dpkg 2017-01-26 03:16:27
"Linux ate my ram!" No, it didn't. Read this: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
zykotick9 2017-01-26 03:16:41
graps: ^
n4dir 2017-01-26 03:16:51
graps: works for me.
graps 2017-01-26 03:16:52
zykotick9: Thanks
n4dir 2017-01-26 03:17:07
output looks like this: http://sprunge.us/CUVM
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:17:22
zykotick9: Ah, was looking through the factoid DB for that. That's the one, thanks.
zykotick9 2017-01-26 03:17:28
graps: it's petn-randall who should get thanked ;) (even if they forgot the factoid)
zykotick9 2017-01-26 03:17:37
petn-randall: ;)
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:17:48
;)
graps 2017-01-26 03:18:14
petn-randall: Thanks !
graps 2017-01-26 03:19:48
jelly: Thanks for the reference to judd's smem inference
ambient 2017-01-26 03:21:14
Hello, when I try to update Tor Browser I get 'Signature verification failed! You might be under attack, or there might just be a networking problem.' I reinstalled the gpg key and followed the install process on the Tor page, the same miserbale results. I had tor browser for months but it refuses to update now...
ambient 2017-01-26 03:21:33
So that is Tor browser, not Tor
contrapunctus 2017-01-26 03:22:04
thanks zykotick9 and jelly
n4dir 2017-01-26 03:22:07
gotta: linux have got way better in the recent years to make it look as if it would eat RAM. Wondering how anything could get done in the bast.
contrapunctus 2017-01-26 03:22:12
that seems geared towards my aim
contrapunctus 2017-01-26 03:22:22
oh lol. 'pigs'
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:22:42
ambient: I'd ask in the project's channel, they probably know the problem if it's anything else than an attack.
ambient 2017-01-26 03:24:44
No one else uses Tor browser here I guess...
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:25:07
ambient: I'm pretty sure everyone in the tor channel does, though.
Errick72 2017-01-26 03:25:23
I'm trying to install debian 8 64amd and I am getting this error. "Ata7.00: status: {drdy}" it hangs there and won't finish boot won't get to the installer
ambient 2017-01-26 03:25:37
petn-randall, Have you been there?
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:29:16
!tor
dpkg 2017-01-26 03:29:16
The Onion Router (Tor) is a low-latency anonymous communication system. Packaged for Debian, only enables the onion proxy by default. For use on OFTC, ask me about . Tor is not allowed on freenode's #debian (http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor), ask me about . https://torproject.org/ #tor on irc.oftc.net.
petn-randall 2017-01-26 03:29:25
ambient: Not yet, why do you ask?
zykotick9 2017-01-26 03:30:24
ambient: fyi, i just updated TB from 6.0.8 -> 6.5 without issues <- still not a #d issue
jhutchins_wk 2017-01-26 03:41:12
Installing on VBox on a flash drive. Man, that's fast.
