otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:45:40
somiaj, han
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:45:46
How can I check that ?
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:46:11
to check that it isn't your de/wm getting in the way, you can run xev in an xsession with no wm/de running (only say xterm)
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:46:46
or you can check the keybindings in your wm/de and see what keycodes it is looking for an intercepting. I would expcect the key code of the volume up button to be the same on most laptops for instance.
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:46:54
well the symbolic name that xev will give you
hmuller 2017-01-26 05:47:37
msev-: nope, a rpi3
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:48:45
somiaj, testing that
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:54:02
xD
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:54:24
somiaj, I cant' get how to focus xev without window manager !
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:55:39
otyugh_II: just move your mouse over it
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:55:52
I think that works in default xorg, I know i've done this test, but its been a while
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:56:35
you are right
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:56:58
nah
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:57:00
no output
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:57:12
it's the "up sound", "down sound" level
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:57:20
weird
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:57:43
the "mute" button is recognized
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:57:44
yea most likley your DE is already configured to do something with those keys
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:57:50
and intercepting the events
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:57:54
nah
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:57:59
there is no DE here
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:58:10
I'm in a xterm only session
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:58:18
oh even then they aren't producing keycodes?
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:58:23
nah
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:58:35
but there is something I just saw
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:58:42
some key don't display what they should
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:58:44
you don't have something else running in the seeions like a key binding app (just double checking)
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:58:50
a bad layout maybe be causing this ?
somiaj 2017-01-26 05:58:55
maybe
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 05:59:10
somiaj, yep I'll try killing the old session
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:00:03
same :(
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:00:42
unsure, I have only basic experience as I don't really use that much hardware, and what I have used the few keys I needed worked as expected...
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:00:42
weird
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:00:53
only happens on two keys on the keyboard
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:01:00
what ones?
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:01:06
up and down sound
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:01:16
but without "fn" the key just works
tomcres 2017-01-26 06:01:19
otyugh_II: does the volume change at all when you press them?
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:01:23
nah
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:01:41
strange, though again some times the firmware does its own thing with those bindings. Though I would suppect those two be sent to the os.
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:01:58
the mute button just one key, just along, triggers X86Mute, which is super standard
tomcres 2017-01-26 06:01:58
otyugh_II: weird. maybe it's an event handled by the sound hardware and not the keyboard controller.
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:02:00
maybe it only adjusts headphone volume? Have you poked around your firmware for settings...
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:02:25
didn't checked that
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:02:33
quite twisted if this is that :O
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:02:52
you have pulse running
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:02:57
maybe I'll just put a sticker on another keys and just bind the damn stuff
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:02:59
yes
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:03:04
could pulse be looking for these, though you would think it would look for mute too
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:03:22
it does work for mute only
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:03:23
anyways, just wild guesses, on my systems I have not seen an issue not seeing the volume up/down keycodes in xev
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:03:41
but I don't use pulse or antying I could think of that would be trying to get in the way looking for those events.
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:03:58
awshit. Why me x)
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:04:19
you didn't know it, but you bought a puzzle wrapped in a laptop case
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:04:32
:D
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:05:08
I may have not found the solution, but I got the moral now ~
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:05:10
maybe it is some feature of plug-n-play os that some bios have a setting to turn on/off
otyugh_II 2017-01-26 06:05:24
he. Great point
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:05:49
though again I woudl assume if that was the case, mute would have been used too
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:05:54
anyways best of luck
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:16:48
Hello, when i install cifs-utils apt also install samba and winbind. After installation i can remove samba and winbind without cifs-utils is beening removed. How can i permit the installation of samba and winbind? It seems there are no dependencies from cifs-utils to samba and winbind. There is only 'Suggests: smbclient' and 'Recommends: winbind' ..
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:19:08
Gabs5807: perhaps others undrestand, but i don't personally follow your question?
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:22:52
zykotick9: Sorry if i'm not clear. When i install cif-utils with 'apt-get install cifs-utils', samba and winbind are also installed automatically. But samba and winbind a not at the Depends list of cifs-utils.
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:23:14
They are only 'Suggests: smbclient' and 'Recommends: winbind'.
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:23:28
Gabs5807: suggests and recommends are similar to depends... but can be disabled if you don't want them...
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:24:16
zykotick9: how can i do it?
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:24:43
Is there an option for apt?
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:25:29
Gabs5807: try "--no-install-recommends"
dwarfmut 2017-01-26 06:25:34
guys... thinkpad x220i its a good laptop?
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:25:35
And the second question is, how can i set this option at preseed?
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:26:42
Gabs5807: re: preseed <- i personally have NO idea... not something i've ever played with. best of luck.
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:28:37
dwarfmut: yellow its a good colour? <- both our questions are subject to opinion, and thus not great questions
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:29:10
zykotick9: Many thanks apt option was a goot hint :-). I search for the preseed elsewhere. Otherwise i try to configure APT::Install-Recommends apt apt.conf at installation ..
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:30:28
Gabs5807: be VERY careful using the APT::Iinstall-Recommends in apt.conf! is this a server build? most packages "expect" recommends to be installed. NOTE: i'm an idiot and run without recommnends and suggests, but i keep a very minimal system (most people wouldn't like it)
hmuller 2017-01-26 06:32:40
anyone familiar with a document that describes the rationale for package inclusion for minbase and base using debootstrap?
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:33:17
zykotick9: no. no server. it's for client installation (which dynamic IPs). The should not have server services like samba installed. But vor mounting smb file systems they need mount.cifs ..
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:33:20
by design recommended packages should be installed, but opinions differ on if a package should be recommended or suggetsed in various cases, I would look at them as a case per case basis if needed.
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:35:26
Gabs5807: i wouldn't recommend disabling recommends if this is for clients! ymmv
zykotick9 2017-01-26 06:35:44
^ system wide i mean
dwarfmut 2017-01-26 06:35:45
x201i its a good laptop?
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:36:30
Gabs5807: what recommends are you running into, I don't see smbclient or cifs-utils recommending the samba server
somiaj 2017-01-26 06:39:06
ahh I see, in jessie winbind is a recommended package which depends on samba, but in stretch it is suggested
Gabs5807 2017-01-26 06:43:03
somiaj: apt-cache depends cifs-utils shows 'Recommends: winbind'. And apt-cache depends winbind shows 'Depends: samba' ..
