Kyoshiro 2017-01-25 02:45:18
any other idea petn-randall ? I managed to get it to boot right now (non xen mode)
Kyoshiro 2017-01-25 02:45:48
it could be a timing issue, if I wait a bit in grub before booting it seems to pass
MaxFrames 2017-01-25 02:45:50
I have performed a v2v conversion of a debian wheezy guest (from vmware to hyper-v); I want to now uninstall open-vm-tools (and all the open-vm-* packages)
MaxFrames 2017-01-25 02:46:35
first question is: just remove them, or purge them?
MaxFrames 2017-01-25 02:46:53
using the synaptic gui, it's remove vs. "completely remove"
MaxFrames 2017-01-25 02:47:35
second question is: should I remove everything "open-vm-*" and do I need to do it in a particular order?
Iridos 2017-01-25 02:47:49
purge removes configuration files, else they are kept
MaxFrames 2017-01-25 02:48:21
so in this case, since I'm no longer running in VMWare, I probably want to purge the packages
Iridos 2017-01-25 02:49:02
well… remove whatever you think you want to remove.
Iridos 2017-01-25 02:49:18
you'll get a list of things that are finally removed that you can (y/n)
MaxFrames 2017-01-25 02:50:25
ok
Iridos 2017-01-25 02:50:37
look at that to see that not tens or hundreds of unrelated packages get removed because of some dependency
somiaj 2017-01-25 02:52:40
kyellow: Final stage of the freeze is Feb 5th. So about 6 months (give or take a few months) after that is a very rough guess. And it will only be rough guesses until a week or two before the annoucment. Watching the rc bug count can help see progress....https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
beastwick 2017-01-25 02:53:32
if bugs are found in stable, do they get fixed?
somiaj 2017-01-25 02:53:59
beastwick: some do, but only very critical bugs that can be fixed via backported fixes.
Iridos 2017-01-25 02:54:20
always, if they are security bugs, else… a lot do, some don't
somiaj 2017-01-25 02:54:20
beastwick: point releases are a combination of bug fixes + security fixes (which is kinda a bug)
plujon 2017-01-25 03:01:22
Greetings. I would like to install a few old versions of Debian for testing purposes, but I don't fully understand the debian release process. Would Debian 6.0.10 (July 19th, 2014), be likely to have a newer or older version of Chromium than 7.0 (May 4th, 2013)?
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:02:50
plujon: debian releases are mostly frozen, so they kinda are stuck with the versions around at the time they froze. Chromium security fixes are an exception, since the newest version is used as the fix.
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:03:14
plujon: also I think your 2014 date is off, though that might be the date support stoped.
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:03:17
!squeeze-lts
dpkg 2017-01-25 03:03:17
Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" ended on 2016-02-29 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main».
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:03:29
!squeeze
dpkg 2017-01-25 03:03:30
Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" was released on 2011-02-06 and is the oldoldstable release: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Security support for Squeeze ended on 2014-05-31, but ask me about . Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze ; ask me about squeeze>. Currently <6.0.10>. Not to be confused with the archive manager.
n4dir 2017-01-25 03:03:44
plujon: testing what?
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:04:01
so 6.0 squeeze, whatever the version of chromium was from security at the time it lost support in 2014 is the version in it.
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:04:04
!wheezy
dpkg 2017-01-25 03:04:04
Wheezy is the current release, Debian 7, released on 2013-05-04: https://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 ; security support ended on 2016-04-25, but ask me about . Wheezy is the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie. See https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy and ask me about jessie>. Final update <7.11>.
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:04:26
same thing with debian 7, wheezy, whatever chromium version was in there from security when support ended is the version avaialble.
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:04:34
(both wich have known security holes now)
plujon 2017-01-25 03:06:00
n4dir: I want to test the behavior of old Chromium (not old Chrome) because I maintain a product that is used by a small number of people using old versions of Chromium.
n4dir 2017-01-25 03:06:49
and what is the point to test the behaviour of an old chromium on an out-of-date operating system?
plujon 2017-01-25 03:06:55
n4dir: Specifically, one user told me he was using Debian 7 with Chromium 37, and had problems. I don't know what version of Debian 7 he has, but before I installed it, I thought maybe I should go back even farther.
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:07:16
snapshot.debian.org will give you any version of chromium that made it into a debian package. You could use that to pull the source and compile it for what you are working on. Note old versions of chromium are filled with security issues.
plujon 2017-01-25 03:07:39
somiaj: Right; I won't actually use chromium myself.
n4dir 2017-01-25 03:07:44
that is: it works, it doesn't work. It doesn't matter. One should not run anything but old-stable.
plujon 2017-01-25 03:07:48
somiaj: Thanks, how exactly can I do that; that sounds awesome!
somiaj 2017-01-25 03:08:03
plujon: go to snapshot.debian.org, download the source code.
plujon 2017-01-25 03:26:01
Rather than download the source, I see there are binary packages. Is it possible for me to grab a .deb, and to install the package to /usr/lib/chromium-37 instead of the default install locations?
babilen 2017-01-25 03:30:24
plujon: You can place the contents there, yes (dpkg -x foo.deb /usr/lib/chromium-37) -- What are you trying to achieve?
plujon 2017-01-25 03:31:09
babilen: Ability to run different versions of chromium easily (for testing)
plujon 2017-01-25 03:40:33
It seems shared library dependencies are not satisfied by simply extracting a deb file. Hmm.
plujon 2017-01-25 03:42:09
E.g. /usr/local/lib/chromium-37/usr/lib/chromium/chromium: error while loading shared libraries: libsrtp.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
plujon 2017-01-25 03:42:09
plujon 2017-01-25 03:43:50
And unfortunately, I suspect building Chromium from source will take a long time and possibly fail if I don't use the right compiler versions and whatnot. Maybe I'll just install Debian 7.0.
Brigo 2017-01-25 03:43:54
plujon, i think you have to create some links too.
