tw 2017-01-24 06:46:12
check samba permissions.
somiaj 2017-01-24 06:46:29
they left about as quickly as they asked teh question
tw 2017-01-24 06:46:46
ah, bleh. I have join/part off in here because there's an awful lot of it XD
tw 2017-01-24 06:48:30
Still haven't figured out how to force tmpfs to write out to swap either. It seems like the kernel likes holding it in the page cache a little too much.
tw 2017-01-24 06:48:43
Maybe it's a kernel bug...
noc_ 2017-01-24 06:49:00
why would you want that? it seems unnecessary I/O
tw 2017-01-24 06:49:20
I want to overcommit tmpfs greater than my RAM.
tw 2017-01-24 06:49:25
without deadlocking the system.
somiaj 2017-01-24 06:50:29
have you actually filled up your ram and it doesn't start swaping?
noc_ 2017-01-24 06:50:30
/proc/sys/vm/swappiness regulates the ratio of anonymous pages (= program memory) vs page cache
hmuller 2017-01-24 06:51:05
jelly: thx for your thoughts. no joy with dpkg-reconfigure --priority=; I will now have to experiment with expect and dpkg-reconfigure
tw 2017-01-24 06:51:28
I've filled tmpfs and it won't swap, just lock. I haven't tried to increase memory pressure from the application side yet.
tw 2017-01-24 06:53:05
swappiness is currently 60.
jelly 2017-01-24 06:53:17
tw: tried tweaking vm/min_free_kbytes in vain hopes of giving kernel enough slack not to deadlock itself?
noc_ 2017-01-24 06:53:42
60 means fifty/fifty (yes)
tw 2017-01-24 07:03:24
min_free_kbytes did not help, I tried bumping it to 512000.
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:07:14
tw: wonder if it is just some limitation in tmpfs, as in the designers assume that if using tmp fs you don't want to write the data to the disk.
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:07:34
i.e. if you are going to use that much space and need to write to a disk, why use tmpfs in the first place and just use the normal caching
tw 2017-01-24 07:07:36
The kernel doc on it suggests that it was designed such that it could be swapped.
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:07:51
I haven't looked into it, just my random thoughts.
tw 2017-01-24 07:08:15
it's a good thought, that seems to be a realistic limitation to tmpfs
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:08:54
http://serverfault.com/questions/432547/using-tmpfs-a-very-large-swap-partition-for-tmp-instead-of-a-regular-filesyst unsure if that will help
jelly 2017-01-24 07:09:29
somiaj: tmpfs explicitely allows ram+swap as backend, while its cousin ramfs locks its pages in ram and forbids swap usage
jelly 2017-01-24 07:09:42
well maybe s/explicitely //
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:10:06
jelly: ahh, wasn't sure, I was just more commenting on a guess as to why it was having trouble.
jelly 2017-01-24 07:10:27
ramfs is actually a bit newer and more complicated because of it :-)
tw 2017-01-24 07:10:28
The kernel docs are pretty explicit. specifically: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
jelly 2017-01-24 07:10:47
tw: which kernels did you try it on?
tw 2017-01-24 07:11:08
jessie most recent. I can get you a version, sec.
jelly 2017-01-24 07:11:23
might be it worked in the past
tw 2017-01-24 07:11:24
3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30)
jelly 2017-01-24 07:11:38
that's current jessie kernel, right
jelly 2017-01-24 07:11:57
I guess you could try the one from jessie-backports to see if there's any difference
jelly 2017-01-24 07:12:00
!bdo kernel
dpkg 2017-01-24 07:12:00
Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
CodeMachine 2017-01-24 07:17:16
Hello guys. Is it possible to track electrum bitcoin transactions?
cameva 2017-01-24 07:18:40
can anyone help me with a java problem
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:19:04
cameva: you can ask your question, and see if anyone has any pointers/advise/help
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:19:14
but until we know what the problem is, we can't do much
jelly 2017-01-24 07:19:22
CodeMachine: maybe ask in an electrum or bitcoin channel? Try searching for one: /msg alis list electrum
cameva 2017-01-24 07:19:32
I have a class defined @ : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/919dceeaafd03babd1eb7630aa70a590
cameva 2017-01-24 07:19:42
I keep getting the error message: TestFan.java:10: error: Fan is abstract; cannot be instantiated
CodeMachine 2017-01-24 07:19:44
That's tryue. ty
cameva 2017-01-24 07:19:52
what make a class "ABSTRACT" ???
jelly 2017-01-24 07:20:23
!next
dpkg 2017-01-24 07:20:23
Another happy customer leaves the building.
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:20:25
cameva: ahh this is more a java programing issue, I would suggest a java channel, I was thinking more configuring/installing java in Debian.
jelly 2017-01-24 07:20:57
now cameva is just teasing
jelly 2017-01-24 07:21:15
cameva: are you there?
cameva 2017-01-24 07:21:43
yes I am here
cameva 2017-01-24 07:21:53
jelly: yes
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:22:00
cameva: ahh this is more a java programing issue, I would suggest a java channel, I was thinking more configuring/installing java in Debian.
jelly 2017-01-24 07:22:21
irc is HARD!
TomTomTo1 2017-01-24 07:22:24
evasive maneuvers.
jelly 2017-01-24 07:22:36
pattern Riker alpha
tw 2017-01-24 07:24:35
jelly: no lock in 4.8.15-2~bpo8+2 (2017-01-17); it goes to swap just like it's supposed to.
jelly 2017-01-24 07:26:10
now go bisect and find where it got fixed :-)
Batzy 2017-01-24 07:26:21
hello, apparently my NIC needs non-free firmware. In https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.7.1-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ would i need the iso.packages as well as the .iso?
jelly 2017-01-24 07:26:51
Batzy: if you want to install, it's probably better to use the installer image instead of live
Batzy 2017-01-24 07:27:06
ok same question though
jelly 2017-01-24 07:27:40
Batzy: the .packages file just lists the installed packages, look at its very small size
Batzy 2017-01-24 07:27:55
oh
Batzy 2017-01-24 07:28:18
jelly: then i think im screwed, i tried with the +nonfree and it still couldnt use my NIC :(
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:28:52
Batzy: some nics are a bit to new for the default kernel, but work with firmware + kernel from jessie-backports. You just have to install these after the install.
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:29:11
Batzy: wired connection for the install can help, or install base system -> copy over newer kernel/firmware, configure network, continue install
jelly 2017-01-24 07:29:21
Batzy: can you paste the pci id of said NIC? The [xxxx:xxxx] number at the end of the relevant line in output of "lspci -nn"
Batzy 2017-01-24 07:29:34
somiaj: i know you from math :O. And I can't do a wired connection
Batzy 2017-01-24 07:29:52
like i said the NIC is not being detected as a whole. Which includes wired connections
somiaj 2017-01-24 07:32:00
Batzy: as jelly requested, let us know what the actual chipset (via pciid) of the network card is, that can be used to determine if and what kernels support it
jelly 2017-01-24 07:33:44
eg. in 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1502] (rev 04)
jelly 2017-01-24 07:33:51
8086:1502 is the pci-id
