JayCoyote 2017-02-27 23:46:31
hello
JayCoyote 2017-02-27 23:48:12
If I install debian, everything already on this drive goes away, yes?
nkuttler 2017-02-27 23:48:43
JayCoyote: depends on how you partition the disk
nkuttler 2017-02-27 23:48:50
JayCoyote: but assuming yes is a safe bet
JayCoyote 2017-02-27 23:49:20
'kay. Last time I partitioned a disk was . . . 2005.
ausinch 2017-02-27 23:49:29
jelly Shadow_7: Hmm UUID of /boot is the same as it was a month ago - I will boot and monitor console. Thanks again (y)
JayCoyote 2017-02-27 23:50:20
thnak you nkuttler
borsin 2017-02-27 23:50:28
JayCoyote: if it's a windows partition you'll probably want to back that up somewhere else first
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:50:59
ausinch: you still might want to extract the package for the latest kernel and cmp the kernel with what's in /boot/
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:51:10
ausinch: dpkg -x .deb
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:51:27
ausinch: you can clone it from /var/cache/apt/archives/
JayCoyote 2017-02-27 23:51:48
iirc, the last time I used debian was on a laptop circa 2009
JayCoyote 2017-02-27 23:51:59
used/installed
rudolf_ 2017-02-27 23:52:04
Hi
JayCoyote 2017-02-27 23:52:31
I'm going to have to think about this some more. Thanks for your time
rudolf_ 2017-02-27 23:52:33
Can someone please tell me the package which contains eigen2 ?
rudolf_ 2017-02-27 23:52:52
B
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:53:05
rudolf_: apt-file find eigen2 ... wims-extra-all
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:53:33
eigen2.oef anyway
rudolf_ 2017-02-27 23:53:53
The previous command searches for it?
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:54:11
searches for a file that contains string as a "partial" name
rudolf_ 2017-02-27 23:54:37
Ok..thanks a lot
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:54:37
one of the results ... wims-extra-all: /var/lib/wims/public_html/modules/U1/algebra/oefdiag.fr/src/eigen2.oef
rudolf_ 2017-02-27 23:54:54
Ok
Shadow_7 2017-02-27 23:55:47
The others have teigen2.dtd or Peigen2.*
rudolf_ 2017-02-27 23:57:50
Ok..thanks. useful command
gameagain 2017-02-28 00:13:18
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gameagain 2017-02-28 00:13:51
I'm tryna put you in the worst mood, ah P1 cleaner than your church shoes, ah Milli point two just to hurt you, ah All red Lamb' just to tease you, ah None of these toys on lease too, ah Made your whole year in a week too, yah Main bitch out your league too, ah Side bitch out of your league too, ah House so empty, need a centerpiece Twenty racks a table cut from ebony Cut that ivory into skinny pieces Then she clean it with her fa
gameagain 2017-02-28 00:13:51
I'm tryna put you in the worst mood, ah P1 cleaner than your church shoes, ah Milli point two just to hurt you, ah All red Lamb' just to tease you, ah None of these toys on lease too, ah Made your whole year in a week too, yah Main bitch out your league too, ah Side bitch out of your league too, ah House so empty, need a centerpiece Twenty racks a table cut from ebony Cut that ivory into skinny pieces Then she clean it with her fa
gameagain 2017-02-28 00:13:52
I'm tryna put you in the worst mood, ah P1 cleaner than your church shoes, ah Milli point two just to hurt you, ah All red Lamb' just to tease you, ah None of these toys on lease too, ah Made your whole year in a week too, yah Main bitch out your league too, ah Side bitch out of your league too, ah House so empty, need a centerpiece Twenty racks a table cut from ebony Cut that ivory into skinny pieces Then she clean it with her fa
gameagain 2017-02-28 00:13:53
I'm tryna put you in the worst mood, ah P1 cleaner than your church shoes, ah Milli point two just to hurt you, ah All red Lamb' just to tease you, ah None of these toys on lease too, ah Made your whole year in a week too, yah Main bitch out your league too, ah Side bitch out of your league too, ah House so empty, need a centerpiece Twenty racks a table cut from ebony Cut that ivory into skinny pieces Then she clean it with her fa
boser 2017-02-28 00:20:32
what is the diffence between a normal boot of debian 8 and if i go into the recovery mode with root-P/W and tip in 'sytemctl default' ? I have the problem, that my system boot until it reach the massage '/dev/sda1/ is clean. The LVM doesn't want to start. Can somebody help me, pls?
julius 2017-02-28 00:25:39
hi
julius 2017-02-28 00:25:55
wasnt there a command caled "grub-update" or "update-grub" to update the grup config?
towo^work 2017-02-28 00:26:09
update-frub there is
towo^work 2017-02-28 00:26:19
*update-grub
n4dir 2017-02-28 00:28:44
"apropos" is a bless, in this case "apropos grub"
julius 2017-02-28 00:29:18
and grub2 is the current version?
julius 2017-02-28 00:29:44
weird, somehow i dont have grub2 installed anymore
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:30:03
did you install grub-legacy?
julius 2017-02-28 00:30:32
not that i know of
julius 2017-02-28 00:30:55
dpkg -l |grep grub shows nothing
dpkg 2017-02-28 00:30:56
ii |grep grub shows nothing 2.1-5.1 julius's private stamp collection
julius 2017-02-28 00:32:05
oh, the bot recognized that as a command
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:32:40
you could just "dpkg -l grub", the grep is redundant. although it changes a release or two back to only show "installed" things
julius 2017-02-28 00:33:02
ah ok
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:33:13
And '*grub*' would be better since grub might grab local path contents instead.
julius 2017-02-28 00:33:25
now i instaled it and told it to install to /dev/sda....lets see how that goes
julius 2017-02-28 00:33:50
what are "local path contents" ?
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:34:13
apt-cache search --names-only grub ...the modern equivalent... although I go a bit more oldschool with dpkg-query --load-avail -l '*grub*', although need dselect update to populate available.
julius 2017-02-28 00:34:14
be right back
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:35:27
julius: dpkg -l grub ... if you have ./grub or other files ./ninegrubs in your current path, it finds those instead of packages. unless you '*grub*'... probably a bash completion thing
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:36:52
Hmmm... looks like dpkg -l '*grub*' behaves as it once did now.
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:37:33
might still need dselect update to have the functionality though.
julius 2017-02-28 00:44:49
grub kinda jumbled my setup together, got two debian versions installed and a third system that is currently corrupt... it looks like grub did setup one entry for every kernel that it found in /boot and did set all roots to the corrupted system
julius 2017-02-28 00:45:06
how do i tell grub to use kenrel xyz with a specific root?
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:46:40
julius: manually edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg or create custom entries. /etc/grub.d/ or /etc/default/grub
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 00:46:49
HI folks
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:47:19
julius: I often have to do that because I prefer UUIDs. so changing root=/dev/sda1 to root=UUID=.......
digup 2017-02-28 00:47:48
I have a USB headset plugged in and I'm not getting any sound. I have pulseaudio installed. I can get sound from teamspeak by selecting playback ALSA which then has the headset option; however, pulseaudio doesn't and it seem the system default is pulseaudio for other applications.
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:47:51
although grub has gotten better at things, as long as /etc/fstab uses UUIDs and is correct
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:48:32
digup: pavucontrol
remem 2017-02-28 00:48:46
anybody hear this solution?
remem 2017-02-28 00:48:47
http://www.debiantutorials.com/install-mysql-server-5-6-debian-7-8/
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:49:18
solution? to trump presidency?
remem 2017-02-28 00:49:52
no to stable and clear debian
julius 2017-02-28 00:50:02
Shadow_7, so youre saying that: /dev/mapper/t560--vg-ubuntu15.04 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 this will not work for grub?
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:50:51
julius: depends on your setup... I tend to use usb sticks and those work best with LABEL or UUID
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 00:51:14
digup, you should have heaphone output ctl with pulseaudio as well as as alsamixer
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:51:27
the /dev/ 's work... until you move the usb stick
julius 2017-02-28 00:52:41
Shadow_7, its a laptop with one drive
jelly 2017-02-28 00:52:50
julius: /dev/mapper/ lvm paths are not dependent on order of disks, so using root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-ubuntu15.04 will most likely work
jelly 2017-02-28 00:53:06
sticks and stones won't break that
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 00:53:12
digup, on desktops you can use the 3mm connections for phones as well as other devices
digup 2017-02-28 00:53:33
BluesKaj: I can change the default output device under the KDE options, but none of the listed devices playback sound. I don't see the same option that ALSA has on teamspeak.
julius 2017-02-28 00:53:56
jelly, well...grub generated this for me: https://bpaste.net/show/1d1f0f6e0ed6
julius 2017-02-28 00:54:09
jelly, as you can see...they all point to a different root
julius 2017-02-28 00:54:32
and its just a old partition, i am really on debian
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:54:34
digup: pavucontrol. It's the mixer for pulseaudio, when things change it assumes you only want to use what you previously used, so you have to tell it otherwise.
jelly 2017-02-28 00:54:56
julius: are you sharing one /boot filesystem among multiple OS installs? That's probably not a good idea
digup 2017-02-28 00:54:59
Shadow_7: Isn't pavucontrol for gtk?
digup 2017-02-28 00:55:06
And plasma-pa for kde?
julius 2017-02-28 00:55:06
jelly, yes
jelly 2017-02-28 00:55:47
julius: don't do that. Pick one OS to manage that partition, and configure others to have their /boot in their /
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 00:55:56
digup, check out alsamixer in the termianl and pulseaudio in system settings>multimedia>device prefernces and the hardware tab settings
julius 2017-02-28 00:56:18
jelly, you mean one grub calls "another" grub?
jelly 2017-02-28 00:57:00
julius: no need to do that, but with such a setup update-grub (well, os-prober) will be able to detect other linux installs properly and create a saner config
julius 2017-02-28 00:57:01
jelly, any google search terms for how to set this up?
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:57:16
digup: it's a gtk3 app. don't have plasma-pa on jessie with no backports
digup 2017-02-28 00:57:29
Shadow_7: I'm using sid atm
jelly 2017-02-28 00:57:37
julius: "don't use separate /boot" isn't really a search term
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 00:58:06
julius: update-grub should set it up. Until it fails you.
julius 2017-02-28 00:58:20
jelly, all i need todo is to give each system its own /boot partition, besides the "first" one? which resides outside the lvm?
jelly 2017-02-28 00:58:53
julius: no, just don't give them a separate /boot at all, let them keep that directory on /
jelly 2017-02-28 00:59:25
your idea would work as well, but you'd have so many partitions.
julius 2017-02-28 00:59:56
jelly, so just one /boot outside of the lvm and all other partitions inside the lvm?
digup 2017-02-28 01:00:23
BluesKaj: Yea those playback devices all don't work, and I don't see anything like "HyperX 7.1 Audio (USB Audio)" like the options in teamspeak.
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:01:14
digup: does the device show up in /proc/asound/cards ?
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:01:39
digup: it might have some less flashy name like hw:3
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:01:41
digup, digital audio out is controlled by spdif out
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:02:32
but I doubt that would work with a headset
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:02:39
it's analog
digup 2017-02-28 01:02:43
Yea /proc/asound/cards shows "2 SB-Audio - HyperX 7.1 Audio"
digup 2017-02-28 01:02:57
USB*
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:03:03
digup: so hw:2 then.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:03:42
is this a Usb outboard soundcard
digup 2017-02-28 01:03:42
Yea, teamspeak is using hw:2 also
digup 2017-02-28 01:04:04
How would I get the whole system to use that?
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:04:18
default soundcard should be card"0"
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:04:27
if using alsa only... echo defaults.pcm.card 2 > ~/.asoundrc
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:04:49
but pulseaudio, you select it... and deselect everything but it.
digup 2017-02-28 01:04:50
0 would be intel, 1 is AMD audio, 2 is headset USB
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:05:36
And sometimes you have to mute / unmute to give pulse half a clue of your desires.
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:06:25
or un-default / default. whatever those button things are the kids use these days
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:08:26
digup, make sure the automute in alsamixer is disabled as well
digup 2017-02-28 01:12:15
Well that seems to work now.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:13:08
youtube and netflix dont' work in chrome
stoned 2017-02-28 01:13:19
it starts to load the video but nothing shows. black
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:13:41
chrome or chromium?
stoned 2017-02-28 01:13:47
either
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:14:06
should work in chrome
stoned 2017-02-28 01:14:21
I reinstalled debian, system was too messy w/ pcakages
stoned 2017-02-28 01:14:25
after reinstall, it doesn't work.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:14:26
used to.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:14:52
sometime chrome has to ne restarted if it needs flash enabled
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:15:00
br
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:15:14
oops
stoned 2017-02-28 01:16:39
well
stoned 2017-02-28 01:16:44
I nuked the .config/google-chrome directory
stoned 2017-02-28 01:16:55
I'm not dealing w/ trign to fix stuff. Just restart that config.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:17:02
Let' see if it works, it's resotringmy accoutn now from gogole
stoned 2017-02-28 01:17:53
well it work snow
stoned 2017-02-28 01:17:58
what a goofy thing.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:18:26
BTW, I the upgrade went smooth yesterday, but I didn't like stretch with his package problems.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:18:36
Still a few packages are broken and I could report them.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:18:59
nvidia-glx-legay-check packet causes problem during post install script and then upgrade fails,
stoned 2017-02-28 01:19:13
So, I fired up a vm, and put stretch from netinst in there
stoned 2017-02-28 01:19:22
Wanted to see the problem was from the upgrade or somethign to do w/ my sytem
stoned 2017-02-28 01:19:47
Turns, the problem is in the package during the upgrae. Brand new stretch RC2 install gives the same error when trying to install the nvidia-driver package.
remem 2017-02-28 01:19:57
anybody have link to clear mysql-client nad mysql-server with out 3th party
stoned 2017-02-28 01:19:57
I could use stretch, if i switch to noveau driver.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:20:42
stoned, which nvidia card/gpu?
stoned 2017-02-28 01:20:45
I'm not configured to connect to oftc. i'll change there
stoned 2017-02-28 01:21:03
it's GTX 275 and 8400GS (two gpu, 3 monitors)
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:21:07
m ake sure you install dkms
remem 2017-02-28 01:21:09
and maybe anybody know difference between (when install with apt-get) name{a} or name{u}?
stoned 2017-02-28 01:21:23
The reason why I use nvidia is b/c of the 2x gpu
stoned 2017-02-28 01:21:35
noveau driver can't handle 2 gpu and 1 X
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:21:38
I have the same card , it's uding the 340 driver
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:21:44
using
stoned 2017-02-28 01:22:06
I also lost like 60gb of zfs data, mostly crap.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:22:23
stoned, install dkms!
stoned 2017-02-28 01:22:27
I ahve.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:22:36
I have zfs-dkms and slc and whatever else needed b
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:23:04
then you should have a problkrm if you use the driver manager
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:23:10
not
stoned 2017-02-28 01:23:22
I dont. I was talking about stretch
stoned 2017-02-28 01:23:38
Jessie to Stretch upgrade, fails in one package. That package is broken in stretch.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:23:44
I'm back on jessie, nice and stable.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:24:13
I'm using dtretch , and the 84ooGS works here
themill 2017-02-28 01:24:24
stoned: which package btw?
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:24:30
8400GS even
stoned 2017-02-28 01:24:34
nvidia-legacy-check 340 something, I lost the logs.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:24:58
If you grep for my logs you'll see it. I think I posted here yesterday
stoned 2017-02-28 01:25:02
I don't have logs
stoned 2017-02-28 01:25:20
grep for al ine containing stoned and nvidia
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:25:32
stoned..stop it , it's not broken in stretch ...you broke it
stoned 2017-02-28 01:26:05
I installed stretch from netinstt cd image, into a brand new machine, and the nvidia-glx-legacy-check package's post inst script is broken in stretch
stoned 2017-02-28 01:26:12
Please don't troll.
themill 2017-02-28 01:26:28
upgrade or fresh install?
domovoy_ 2017-02-28 01:26:54
hi
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:26:56
you're theone who's trolling stoned and take it easy on the enter key
stoned 2017-02-28 01:27:01
First I did upgrade, got this error. I said, hmm, maybe my sytem is bad. So I did brand new stretch install of RC2, and same problem w/ the nvidia legay check package
stoned 2017-02-28 01:27:26
As it turns, it's that package in stretch repo which fails to fully install and t hus breaks the upgrade on nvidia systems.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:27:30
(who dont use noveau)
themill 2017-02-28 01:27:52
bug reported?
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:28:26
I guess they finally banned you at ##linux eh , stoned, so now your going spread your BS in gere
stoned 2017-02-28 01:28:29
themill: I didn't have a working machine, so by the time I got a system up and runing, no more logs to use for bugreporting, unless I try another upgrade or fresh install. Which I might do in a vm and then reprt.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:28:44
here even'
stoned 2017-02-28 01:28:44
BluesKaj: is this really necessary?
stoned 2017-02-28 01:28:58
And no I'm not banned. Thanks for the slander.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:29:04
yesm because you're spreading fale info
abrotman 2017-02-28 01:29:15
libel technically ...
domovoy_ 2017-02-28 01:29:16
i need to install debian on a usb key (not install _from_, but install _to_, so that i can boot from it and use it like it is installed on my harddrive), any idea where i should look?
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:29:16
false info
stoned 2017-02-28 01:29:19
ignored. I am not dealing w/ this.
abrotman 2017-02-28 01:29:22
slander is spoken
stoned 2017-02-28 01:29:29
abrotman: ah, thanks
jelly 2017-02-28 01:31:19
BluesKaj: keep your personal opinions of other users out of this channel, this is your only warning
stoned 2017-02-28 01:32:57
I really ought to remoe this 3rd monitor, 2nd gpu, move to 1 gpu, and just use Noveu driver and Xrandr, instead of Xinerama and stitching together 3 monitors across 2 gpu. Then I can use stretch w/o the goofy nvidia package bug.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:33:03
*sigh*
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:33:27
jelly, ok, but you'll see what I mean soon enough
themill 2017-02-28 01:33:39
stoned: btw nvidia-legacy-check doesn't have a postinst. It's awfully hard to triage this...
stoned 2017-02-28 01:33:52
themill: I'll do another stretch install in a vm.
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:34:28
themill, nvidia legavy check isn't necessarily accurate
stoned 2017-02-28 01:34:31
themill: if you won't mind, could you grep my name for yesterday?
stoned 2017-02-28 01:34:41
themill: I might have pasted the error here.
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:34:55
domovoy_: it's not that hard. You can rsync an install to such a thing and chroot install the bootloader. Make sure you change the /etc/fstab and such for it's new location.
themill 2017-02-28 01:35:15
stoned: you mentioned a couple of different package names neither of which actually exist
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:35:39
domovoy_: otherwise debootstrap installations are well suited for usb sticks.
domovoy_ 2017-02-28 01:36:06
Shadow_7: so, a 'debootstrap + chroot + fstab + apt-get install grub' should work?
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:36:06
domovoy_: make sure you set a root password and install kernel to boot as part of the "extra" steps though.
domovoy_ 2017-02-28 01:36:36
Shadow_7: great, thanks
stoned 2017-02-28 01:36:51
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/nvidia-legacy-check
stoned 2017-02-28 01:37:01
This package runs when I try to do apt-get install nvidia-driver
Shadow_7 2017-02-28 01:37:07
domovoy_: formatting of the stick and stuff is pre-debootstrap, and make sure you install networking tools and firmwares before you boot it.
stoned 2017-02-28 01:37:09
This package seems to have the problem
themill 2017-02-28 01:37:12
stoned: and it doesn't have a postinst
stoned 2017-02-28 01:37:14
I'll have to do another install.
themill 2017-02-28 01:37:28
please. real data → reportbug
stoned 2017-02-28 01:37:38
Find out. But both times, (upgrade AND fresh install of stretch) reported this package and failed to isntall
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:39:20
stoned , which nvidia driver do you have installed?
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:42:32
stoned, for your info the recommned driver for the 8400GS uses the nvidia-340 driver and it works just great on stretch
BluesKaj 2017-02-28 01:44:16
probly has me on ignore by now:-)
