petn-randall 2017-02-23 01:55:04
Wzup: How do you start it?
smhar 2017-02-23 01:55:08
petn-randall, oh.. I thought 4.9 was in debian stable!
unborn 2017-02-23 01:55:24
smhar: just following your paste, how did you start the update?
Wzup 2017-02-23 01:55:34
sudo openvpn --config "cd file" --daemon
smhar 2017-02-23 01:56:09
unborn, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ... then the apt-get install linux-image
petn-randall 2017-02-23 01:56:39
Wzup: If you start it like that by hand, you can only terminate it by sending it a SIGTERM. See 'man kill' for details.
smhar 2017-02-23 01:56:44
ok... I tried the -t jessie-backports and it is working
smhar 2017-02-23 01:57:01
now I am wondering if I should go ahead or not :-)
tw 2017-02-23 01:57:06
Wzup: or pkill might be more helpful in your case.
urzds 2017-02-23 01:57:25
Hi!
unborn 2017-02-23 01:57:37
smhar: just follow petn-randalls advice regards -t release-backports and it should give you joy
urzds 2017-02-23 01:57:52
Are there UEFI-capable Debian live images available somewhere? Something experimental maybe?
Wzup1 2017-02-23 01:58:09
I did kill -9 -1, ez solution. Thank you, Mr.
Wzup1 2017-02-23 01:59:09
Or nevermind lol. That command kills every jobb I CAN kill. Looks like I can't kill this one?
Wzup1 2017-02-23 01:59:24
Nevermind, it
Wzup1 2017-02-23 01:59:27
s working
n4dir 2017-02-23 01:59:36
smhar: what are you wondering about?
tw 2017-02-23 02:00:16
Wzup1: if you use pkill, you can provide the process name. Or you can discover the process ID like `ps -ef | grep openvpn`
Wzup1 2017-02-23 02:02:04
tw: Thx
n4dir 2017-02-23 02:02:12
or pgrep
Wzup1 2017-02-23 02:02:35
Is there any kill command that is like, universal? Easy to discover all and easy to kill?
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:02:44
I'd like to get a software recommendation: I would like to collect data from sensors (e. g. temperature sensor) that send their values unregularly, e. g. every time the temperature changes at least one degree. With what software or in which structure should I save such data to be usable later, for example for graphing? A simple csv file with timestamps, a separate one for every sensor?
tw 2017-02-23 02:05:30
Wzup1: if browsable lists are more your game, install htop, use arrow keys & f9
Wzup1 2017-02-23 02:12:49
So everything that is "debian" is a job that I can kill, and not root right?
tw 2017-02-23 02:13:09
I wouldn't do it that way, no.
tw 2017-02-23 02:13:22
Use systemctl for managing services.
gebruiker 2017-02-23 02:14:35
Guys what do you think of ext4 vs xfs for desktop pc?
gebruiker 2017-02-23 02:14:39
reading lots of good stuff about xfs
Wzup1 2017-02-23 02:15:11
tw: ok thanks. both is handy :)
Cork 2017-02-23 02:15:31
why on earth is extent depending on x11-common and xterm??
Cork 2017-02-23 02:16:02
(trying to use unbuffer on a server and don't want to install x11 to do that...)
n4dir 2017-02-23 02:21:12
xterm seems to come with it as a Recommends, Try --no-install-recommends
Cork 2017-02-23 02:21:40
AHA!, i learn something new today!
Cork 2017-02-23 02:21:49
n4dir: thx a bunch that solved it
n4dir 2017-02-23 02:22:05
:-)
Cork 2017-02-23 02:25:11
ah... though it won't work without tk8.6 and it requires x11-common...
n4dir 2017-02-23 02:26:16
ah, Well; i couldn't really figure out the details.
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:27:10
I'd like to get a software recommendation: I would like to collect data from sensors (e. g. temperature sensor) that send their values unregularly, e. g. every time the temperature changes at least one degree. With what software or in which structure should I save such data to be usable later, for example for graphing? A simple csv file with timestamps, a separate one for every sensor?
tw 2017-02-23 02:35:35
Timmy13: depends on how complicated you want to get. I'd probably go straight to some graphing system like mrtg or cacti. rrdtool databases are not great for irregular events though, and can lose rapidly changing conditions if faster than your time quantum.
tw 2017-02-23 02:36:28
A flat csv file like you're suggesting is easily graphable in gnuplot or whatever you want, so you have a lot of options.
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:36:35
tw thanks for the hint. I actually did not want to use rrdtool specifically because of that. If temperature changes 20 times a minute, then not for hours, I want 20 entries.
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:37:10
tw with easily graphable you also mean if having input files like I just stated: different pauses between values?
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:38:01
And then: should I start a new file every day (for every sensor), or let it continue on and on ... (okay, I could merge them anytime with 'cat' ...)
tw 2017-02-23 02:39:20
Right, and filter them with awk -F, '($1 > sometime1 && $1 < sometime2){print $0}'
tw 2017-02-23 02:39:33
etc.
tw 2017-02-23 02:39:36
it's very fast.
tw 2017-02-23 02:39:52
Unless you have a crapload of datapoints, but weather simply doesn't change that fast.
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:40:22
tw sounds good to me ...
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:40:50
Then I'll do just that: simple enough to build, and clear to use. Thank you!
tw 2017-02-23 02:41:32
If you do need complex analytics, import to excel like all the scientists do.
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:42:57
tw I'm no scientist, and excel specialist, but I think this software would have problem with doing nice graphs if the data points are not in a continuous spacing ...
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:43:32
of course with plotting, I would very much like the graph to be clean relative to time, you know?
Timmy13 2017-02-23 02:43:56
Maybe that's the point where it gets difficult ...
tw 2017-02-23 02:44:02
gnuplot will do what you need. There are plenty of examples of working with scatterplot style datasets.
