petn-randall 2017-02-03 03:45:57
Digital: How so?
babilen 2017-02-03 03:46:37
I've installed multiple boxes without issues
babilen 2017-02-03 03:46:52
Guess some information as to why it isn't "working" might be helpful.
babilen 2017-02-03 03:47:05
Bloody installers drinking g&t all day again, I'm sure
Digital 2017-02-03 03:47:49
i had a separate boot, root and home partition, the installer had some problem after (writing the changes to disk) and exiting the partition manager, when starting to install
Digital 2017-02-03 03:48:25
fsck told me there was a bad magic number in the superblock
petn-randall 2017-02-03 03:49:09
Digital: That sounds like you're running fsck on a blank disk, and not the partition.
petn-randall 2017-02-03 03:49:17
Digital: Or an empty partition.
Digital 2017-02-03 03:49:20
oh, lol
Digital 2017-02-03 03:49:21
heehee
Digital 2017-02-03 03:49:27
nvm then
Digital 2017-02-03 03:53:42
I'm trying to install on a device with a msdos partition table, same error
josefig 2017-02-03 03:54:40
hi, i'm trying to start rabbitmq-server and i'm getting this error: Failed to start rabbitmq-server.service: Unit rabbitmq-server.service is masked <-- someone had seen this before?
greycat 2017-02-03 03:55:08
Only when trying to install systemd unit files by hand....
josefig 2017-02-03 03:57:14
greycat: what did you do to solve it?
petn-randall 2017-02-03 03:57:18
Digital: How did you prepare the installation image?
greycat 2017-02-03 03:57:46
Remove all of the stuff I did by hand, and read more systemd docs, and then redo it properly.
Digital 2017-02-03 03:58:29
petn-randall, I used dd to copy an iso to the device
greycat 2017-02-03 03:58:34
Like, if there are symlinks from some systemd files to other systemd files, do NOT make those by hand. Those are made by systemd automatically whenever you put special magic alias thingies in the wossnames....
greycat 2017-02-03 03:59:18
Some day maybe someone will figure this crap out, and write a HUMAN-READABLE GUIDE to how to use systemd.
greycat 2017-02-03 03:59:31
But now, after only 3 years of systemd, nobody has done this yet.
petn-randall 2017-02-03 03:59:53
?
greycat 2017-02-03 04:00:07
A system administrator's guide to systemd.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:00:13
How to install a new service.
josefig 2017-02-03 04:00:17
ok, let me try it
petn-randall 2017-02-03 04:00:19
"systemctl unmask rabbitmq-server", fixed.
josefig 2017-02-03 04:01:37
wow, worked petn-randall you should write a guide of how to use systemd :D
greycat 2017-02-03 04:01:40
How to figure out what the hell an existing service is doing, so that when you locally-compile your own version of the package for internal political reasons, you can make your locally-compiled version not break.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:01:44
You know, things like that.
petn-randall 2017-02-03 04:01:49
It's not that much of rocket science. You just add the unit file to /etc/systemd/system/, then use the 'systemctl enable ' to enable it, or the usual to start it.
petn-randall 2017-02-03 04:03:06
greycat: "systemctl show ", then copy that into a file into /etc/systemd/system/.service, where you can customize it.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:03:24
OK, more specifically. There is an /etc/systemd/system/sshd.service symlink in Debian. By default.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:03:35
If you touch that, SHIT WILL BREAK.
themill 2017-02-03 04:03:43
or systemctl edit in stretch
themill 2017-02-03 04:04:21
"touch /etc/systemd/system/sshd.service" ← nothing broke. Perhaps more details and less CAPS?
greycat 2017-02-03 04:04:36
So if you are trying to compile and install your own upstream higher-visible-version-number ssh package, you need to know how to do that, and there is no clear documentation for it.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:05:05
Fuck it. I give up. You are all so fucking smart. Whatever.
themill 2017-02-03 04:05:18
It's impossible to help people who don't want it.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:05:35
None of you have ever had to do this, so you haven't had to clean up the mess when you tried really fucking hard and STILL broke it.
themill 2017-02-03 04:05:38
Feel free to ask some other time.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:07:54
For those of you who are NOT just smart-assing me for grins, and who may actually care about how to do this: the symlink sshd.service (note the "d") is created automatically pointing to /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service (note the LACK OF a "d") because the latter has Alias=sshd.service (note the "d") in it.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:08:15
You are NOT supposed to make a symlink yourself. It is NOT a natural part of the ssh service if you build your own ssh service.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:09:08
So if you get "masked" errors because you tried really fucking hard to follow the Debian examples but broken it because the examples were obscure as hell, it's because of this.
greycat 2017-02-03 04:09:32
If you get "masked" errors for some other inscrutable reason, then I don't know.
jer0me 2017-02-03 04:11:26
hey #debian, I guess some of you are thinkpad users. I just got my hands on a nice i7 x220 which bios doesn't seem to let me activate virtualization option and so other. Ever had this issue? I can't see anything wrong in the dmesg.
petn-randall 2017-02-03 04:12:08
jer0me: Maybe the BIOS needs updating? Or the CPU doesn't support HW virtualization. I'd check it on ark.intel.com
peterrooney 2017-02-03 04:12:17
greycat: so, systemd still a documentation shitshow
jer0me 2017-02-03 04:14:03
petn-randall: cpu is i7-2640m, pretty sure it supports vt. The bios is fresh, updated 2 hours ago. Maybe the cmos battery neeeds changing.
Digital 2017-02-03 04:14:40
okay, using the graphical install option of the live iso doesn't work well, the first cd iso does
zykotick9 2017-02-03 04:16:14
Digital: note, the live images DON'T support UEFI...
Digital 2017-02-03 04:16:43
zykotick9, I don't use uefi
zykotick9 2017-02-03 04:17:26
Digital: personally, i don't understand why people want to use the live images stuff to install...
Digital 2017-02-03 04:18:06
i put the wrong image on the usb stick by accident lol
Digital 2017-02-03 04:18:34
zykotick9, it's great to test stuff
zykotick9 2017-02-03 04:19:03
Digital: personally, i prefer to use things that work... but ymmv.
Digital 2017-02-03 04:19:29
what does ymmv stand for?
zykotick9 2017-02-03 04:19:47
sorry, Your Milage May Vary (meaning you may have different results)
Digital 2017-02-03 04:20:09
zykotick9, I don't know what works for me until i test it :p
Digital 2017-02-03 04:20:20
ah
jelly 2017-02-03 04:20:32
jer0me: ask in ##ibmthinkpad
Walakea 2017-02-03 04:36:19
how do i install xfce if i already have gnome and don't want xfce's core applications (file manager, text editor, termnal, ...); but still want applications that are relevant (xfce settings, ...)?
TomTomTo1 2017-02-03 04:36:37
,i xfwm4
judd 2017-02-03 04:36:39
Package xfwm4 (xfce, optional) in jessie/amd64: window manager of the Xfce project. Version: 4.10.1-3; Size: 668.2k; Installed: 2781k; Homepage: http://www.xfce.org/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/xfwm4
TomTomTo1 2017-02-03 04:36:47
probably this.
Walakea 2017-02-03 04:37:21
thanks
TomTomTo1 2017-02-03 04:37:56
or look at the dependenyies of the xfce4 package and pick what you need.
Digital 2017-02-03 04:38:01
now i got an error while trying to install the kernel
SynrG 2017-02-03 04:38:59
Digital: we won't get very far until you tell us which error :)
Walakea 2017-02-03 04:39:03
once i installed a package called xfce4-session (i think) and i couldn't reboot via GUI
Walakea 2017-02-03 04:39:29
wouldn't like it to happen again
SynrG 2017-02-03 04:40:03
Walakea: desktop environments do tend to be designed to have all the bits working together. if you manage to get some small subset of it working, it will probably be only after some trial and error.
sh00p 2017-02-03 04:40:44
rebooting via gui is overrated anyway
sh00p 2017-02-03 04:40:53
sudo reboota does the trick for me
Digital 2017-02-03 04:40:56
linux-image-amd64 depends on linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 but linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 is not configured yet
sh00p 2017-02-03 04:40:58
s/reboota/reboot
Digital 2017-02-03 04:41:20
SynrG, ^^
Walakea 2017-02-03 04:41:30
well, i wouldn't mind to install whole xfce4, but i thought there would be a simple way to avoid those external applications
SynrG 2017-02-03 04:41:45
Digital: it's unlikely that was the only output. please, at paste.debian.net, put the command you typed and its full output
Digital 2017-02-03 04:42:24
SynrG, I used the graphical installer and read through tty4
Walakea 2017-02-03 04:42:40
sh00p: i managed to do it via terminal, other thing was that i had autologin to the last used session
SynrG 2017-02-03 04:43:33
Digital: what i mean is, that error is due to whatever the real error was that prevented the kernel from being configured. without seeing that, it's hard to say what went wrong.
SynrG 2017-02-03 04:44:31
Digital: in any case, don't use the launcher that's bundled with the live images. it's crap.
SynrG 2017-02-03 04:44:47
Digital: if you want to install from a live CD, then select "Install" from the boot menu instead.
