mrprole 2017-02-01 06:45:56
Guys, when will be debian 9 final release? This year?
tomcres 2017-02-01 06:46:14
!stretch pool
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:46:15
See for bets placed on when Stretch will release. To add one, ask me about .
KingsQuest 2017-02-01 06:46:16
i'd like to know
tomcres 2017-02-01 06:46:19
!stretch pool 1
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:46:19
! cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbīlen=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themíll=2017-05-01
nauticalnexus 2017-02-01 06:46:36
!stretch bet
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:46:37
To add a bet to the , /msg dpkg stretch pool 1 =~ s/!/! yournick=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when "stretch pool 1" is full, create "stretch pool 2" and update this factoid.
tomcres 2017-02-01 06:46:54
my own guess is end of summer
mrprole 2017-02-01 06:48:37
Is there are any good guide to update debian from one version to another?
greycat 2017-02-01 06:49:15
dpkg, wheezy->jessie
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:49:15
Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the http://deb.li/ldcj . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also .
nauticalnexus 2017-02-01 06:49:16
:O I contributed
nauticalnexus 2017-02-01 06:49:20
!stretch pool 1
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:49:20
! nauticalnexus=2017-04-19 cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbīlen=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themíll=2017-05-01
petn-randall 2017-02-01 06:49:22
mrprole: Yes, there are always very detailed intructions in the release notes.
tomcres 2017-02-01 06:50:50
mrprole, for stretch: https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
mrprole 2017-02-01 06:51:10
THX
jelly 2017-02-01 06:57:22
doublehp: multiple screen situation probably got better in the meantime on its own :-)
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:57:42
jelly: I hear this since 2004 ...
jelly 2017-02-01 07:03:53
doublehp: I've only looked at the first link. A corner case that only appears with a specific hw setup is hard to reproduce, let alone fix. You don't get to "I shouldn't have to debug as a user" there, esp. if developer's time is limited.
doublehp 2017-02-01 07:05:54
jelly: in 2010, I was less negative, had more time , had more energy to test things, and was even willing to provide root access to my network (not only to the machine, but to a bunch of machine to help people control the machine; including machines proving serial port console over ssh, and remote power buttons).
jelly 2017-02-01 07:07:10
doublehp: so I understand your frustration, but you also need to understand the resources of both distro maintainers and upstream are limited. You could argue their work ethic, much like yours, is one such resource. :->
jelly 2017-02-01 07:08:16
this often results in software (both open and closed source) be half-assed half-products
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:08:51
if any DD can solution to this Bug#852619: Acknowledgement (GRUB2 unbootable 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1)
jelly 2017-02-01 07:09:21
AlexLikeRock: ... then what?
doublehp 2017-02-01 07:10:01
jelly: just as we speak ... a bug in firefox.
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:10:02
no body answer to my bug
doublehp 2017-02-01 07:11:23
jelly: firefox prints a page, but, printer complains about syntax error; I will have to make a screenshot, and print the image ... otherwise, stopping OT. Good night. You asked links to Xorg, I gave some. I could give links to many other apps (including Debian).
jelly 2017-02-01 07:11:24
AlexLikeRock: they've received your bug, but there's no obligation to fix or comment on it. Maybe the grub2 maintainer is busy with stretch or real life.
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:11:38
jelly, calm down
jelly 2017-02-01 07:11:45
AlexLikeRock: esp. since you have a workaround
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:11:47
i now all its volunter
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:12:10
well, i just remember
jelly 2017-02-01 07:12:30
AlexLikeRock: not many DDs in here any more, not since irc.debian.org moved off Freenode
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:16:20
move off freenode?
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:16:22
why?
jelly 2017-02-01 07:16:55
!irc move
greycat 2017-02-01 07:17:19
!oftc move
dpkg 2017-02-01 07:17:19
irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html. Operators and bots (see ) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on one or other network. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:18:15
tankyou
jelly 2017-02-01 07:18:39
AlexLikeRock: is it possible something else tampered with your /etc/default/grub and added the bad boot kernel params there
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:19:24
yes, GRUB must be do a best TEST with KVM
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:19:35
if are ON or OFF
jelly 2017-02-01 07:20:31
AlexLikeRock: does console=hvc0 appear in /etc/default/grub?
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:21:38
yes , i remove time ago
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 07:22:05
but mi sugestion , its; no active KVM , if they are not active by bios
jelly 2017-02-01 07:22:45
AlexLikeRock: did you run "update-grub" after editing /etc/default/grub?
jelly 2017-02-01 07:27:46
AlexLikeRock: if you forget to do that, old /boot/grub/grub.conf stays in place and can cause something like your issue