Circuitsoft 2017-02-01 05:45:16
Well, then mount your root partition somewhere from the rescue disk you're running gparted from.
graps 2017-02-01 05:49:30
Hi all
_Nox 2017-02-01 05:52:35
ho
_Nox 2017-02-01 05:52:48
*hi
graps 2017-02-01 05:55:31
_Nox: Hi
it0 2017-02-01 06:03:42
/away
_Nox 2017-02-01 06:05:35
graps ;-)
_Nox 2017-02-01 06:12:01
@away
it0 2017-02-01 06:15:29
lol
it0 2017-02-01 06:15:48
trying to get used to irssi, sorry guys ;)
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:16:25
when upstream dev refuse to fix any bug, is it worth reporting to distro BTS, or should I give up with reporting completely ?
jelly 2017-02-01 06:17:19
doublehp: it depends, some maintainers fix stuff in debian right away, some prefer upstream issues are solved upstream first
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:17:56
so I can try reporting to Debian ?
jelly 2017-02-01 06:18:04
doublehp: if you already have a patch of your own, it makes debian maintainer's choice easier
jelly 2017-02-01 06:18:08
yes
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:18:14
no i don't have patch
jelly 2017-02-01 06:18:54
upstream unwilling to fix bugs is a sign you probably should shop for a replacement software sooner
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:18:55
i have found several flaws in several apps, that require several weeks of digging each; I don't have time, and I don't have knowledge
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:19:48
jelly: replacement for Xorg ? OpenOffice ? Munin ? ZoneMinder ? GCC ? Linux ? ...
jelly 2017-02-01 06:20:00
doublehp: yes.
rafalcpp 2017-02-01 06:20:01
doublehp: most of FOSS is poor quality
jelly 2017-02-01 06:20:30
doublehp: software development and maintenance is not free
rafalcpp 2017-02-01 06:20:36
but much is acceptable
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:22:36
dev think that when source code is available, users should debug it for them ... seing that very often is making me angry; fact I had the knowledge 10 years ago does not mean my familly and work TODAY let me time to contribute now.
jelly 2017-02-01 06:22:39
doublehp: what's the bug number on bugs.freedesktop.org for that Xorg issue?
jelly 2017-02-01 06:22:50
doublehp: of course users should debug
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:23:22
jelly: I gaveup on Xorg in 2011
Riku 2017-02-01 06:32:09
why does debian still ship with kernel 3.16?
greycat 2017-02-01 06:32:24
because stable (jessie) was frozen in November 2014 or so
Riku 2017-02-01 06:32:25
which fails to boot on kaby lake
greycat 2017-02-01 06:32:28
!freeze
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:32:28
The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'. Stretch will start to freeze in early 2017. Also ask me about , .
greycat 2017-02-01 06:32:43
!jessie freeze
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:32:43
Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot! Debian 8.0 "Jessie" was frozen on 2014-11-05; no new versions of packages will enter this release and a period of intense bug fixing has begun. See http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html or ask me about . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot
Riku 2017-02-01 06:33:13
just installed debian 8.7 and it won't even boot on my 7600K because the kernel is too ancient
jelly 2017-02-01 06:35:03
Riku: don't buy hardware before investigating it works on your desired distro, is what I do
greycat 2017-02-01 06:35:05
So test the testing installer (but we don't support it here), or use a different OS.
jelly 2017-02-01 06:35:26
kaby lake is shiny new stuff
towo` 2017-02-01 06:38:45
i ask myself, how could debian be installed with the same nit running kernel
jelly 2017-02-01 06:39:02
!install stretch
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:39:02
The best way to install Debian 9 "Stretch" is probably using the current release candidate of the installer images. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ These images might break or might be buggy but if you're installing the testing release, then you obviously want to help find and report bugs :)
jelly 2017-02-01 06:39:05
Riku: ^^
AlexLikeRock 2017-02-01 06:39:13
good mornig GNUs
greycat 2017-02-01 06:39:27
towo`: I wonder that too, but I don't know anything about this lake
mrprole 2017-02-01 06:39:41
Riku, use another distro with rolling release. Debian is for old tested hardware.
petn-randall 2017-02-01 06:41:14
Riku: You could debootstrap the machine with a kernel from jessie-backports.
KingsQuest 2017-02-01 06:41:35
when is debian non-release candidate for stretch ?
greycat 2017-02-01 06:41:45
!stretch
dpkg 2017-02-01 06:41:45
The release following Debian 8 "Jessie" is codenamed "Stretch" (the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3) and will be Debian 9: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch
Riku 2017-02-01 06:41:50
stretch has linux 4.9, so I'm going with that
petn-randall 2017-02-01 06:42:12
Riku: Sure, just be aware that it's still pre-release quality.
Riku 2017-02-01 06:42:29
I know I used stretch as the only OS on my old laptop
greycat 2017-02-01 06:42:36
It's half-frozen now. Full freeze in a few days.
doublehp 2017-02-01 06:43:28
jelly: gave you 4 bug numbers in private. note that two of them never got a single reply.
