Verity 2017-03-04 12:45:35
its 7.3 on my distro for some reason
Verity 2017-03-04 12:45:53
this is useless
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:46:02
either you're running wheezy, or not Debian at all
Verity 2017-03-04 12:46:09
probably on wheezy, yes
themill 2017-03-04 12:46:15
'probably'
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:46:27
cat /etc/debian_version
Verity 2017-03-04 12:46:39
7.8
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:46:47
that's wheezy
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:46:47
update
Verity 2017-03-04 12:46:54
I can't
themill 2017-03-04 12:46:55
Perhaps it is time to upgrade to a supported release.
Verity 2017-03-04 12:46:56
it broke the vps last timer
Verity 2017-03-04 12:47:00
and they said dont do that
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:47:16
wheezy is ancient
themill 2017-03-04 12:47:22
Find someone more clueful to give your money
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:48:11
or you can install the version from wheezy-backports, but I would still advise upgrading to jessie
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:49:04
does anyone here know if resilio sync can be installed on powerpc architecture?
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:49:23
resilio sync = the newer bittorrent sync
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:50:58
curl -L 'http://linux-packages.resilio.com/resilio-sync/deb/dists/resilio-sync/InRelease'
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:51:08
only i386, amd64, armel, armhf
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:51:16
hmph
Verity 2017-03-04 12:51:24
so I just do
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:51:26
weird i could've sworn it used to be supported
Verity 2017-03-04 12:51:29
apt-get dist-upgrade
Verity 2017-03-04 12:51:36
and hope it doesnt destroy everything like last time?
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:51:42
ah yes it seems ppc was dropped
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:51:55
well i found the latest release for it: http://internal.getsync.com/2.0.85/
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:52:00
they're idiots for not including the debian version codename in the suite though
Verity 2017-03-04 12:52:53
jrtc27,
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:52:59
!jessie
dpkg 2017-03-04 12:52:59
Jessie is the codename for the current release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25: http://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150426 . Jessie is the cowgirl in Toy Story 2. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie and ask me about jessie>. Currently <8.7>.
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:53:07
!release notes
dpkg 2017-03-04 12:53:07
Release notes for Debian 8 "Jessie" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/releasenotes . See also jessie>, .
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:53:14
!wheezy->jessie
Verity 2017-03-04 12:53:28
maybe I should justg fiund another host
Verity 2017-03-04 12:53:33
this is cutting into my productivity
Verity 2017-03-04 12:53:36
SEVERELY
dc123 2017-03-04 12:54:23
hi guys what happens if i don't install DesktopEnvironment but i do install xfce?
Verity 2017-03-04 12:56:39
ok
Verity 2017-03-04 12:56:44
those fools put 7 on there
Verity 2017-03-04 12:56:48
They've been spoken to
Verity 2017-03-04 12:56:51
installing 8 now
unborn 2017-03-04 13:07:08
dc123: if you dont install any DE you will be left with glory of really really snappy os and gawjust tty. if you do install xfce then you have DE installed.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:08:26
dc123: you can list the pckages in each task
stoned 2017-03-04 13:08:35
dc123: read the man page for tasksel
piklu 2017-03-04 13:08:47
Any vnc experts here?
unborn 2017-03-04 13:09:16
piklu: what about it? just shoot your question out
stoned 2017-03-04 13:09:18
piklu: are you able to connect your machines together otherwise? Does it make a connection?
dc123 2017-03-04 13:09:22
its funny cause i didnt install man @stoned xD
stoned 2017-03-04 13:09:45
dc123: mandb is installed by the base system, iirc. (you can probably skip that during expert install)
dc123 2017-03-04 13:09:52
yeah
stoned 2017-03-04 13:09:55
or maybe man-db is part of another task, I don't recall
dc123 2017-03-04 13:09:59
its in system utilities
stoned 2017-03-04 13:10:03
i see
piklu 2017-03-04 13:10:15
stoned : I am able to connect machines. authentication is accepted if password is right and rejected otherwise. I see a gray screen. I am recieving an error in log saying - xstartup not found, however file is accessible. I am running it as root, I understand it is an issue, I will make a separate user later for vnc
shawn1 2017-03-04 13:10:41
Man, there are so many videos on youtube claiming to review Debian Stretch RC1... I keep telling them it's just the installer that's RC1, why is English comprehension so hard for some ? Debian.Net and the readme state this so clearly
shawn1 2017-03-04 13:11:08
Er Debian.org
unborn 2017-03-04 13:11:33
piklu: why vnc for linux to linux? you can use ssh for it.. or no go?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:11:36
pkiller: do you have an xstartup file?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:11:51
stoned : absolutely, in the same location.
unborn 2017-03-04 13:11:52
I do use vnc to windows machines...but that is like different story
piklu 2017-03-04 13:12:02
unborn : mac to linux
stoned 2017-03-04 13:12:14
the machine you are connecting to, does it have X alreayd running or not?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:12:15
unborn : Want to use mostly like remote desktop
piklu 2017-03-04 13:12:36
stoned : it is a gnome environment.
unborn 2017-03-04 13:12:39
piklu: yeah - ssh should work for you.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:12:42
pkiller: XDMCP as well a ssh -X and import a desktop
stoned 2017-03-04 13:12:50
!xdmcp
dpkg 2017-03-04 13:12:50
The X Display Manager Control Protocol (XDMCP) provides a uniform mechanism for an autonomous display (e.g. X terminal) to request login service from a remote host. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_(program_type)#X_Display_Manager_Control_Protocol
piklu 2017-03-04 13:13:05
stoned : it seems a new thing ?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:13:09
Very old.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:13:15
But the thing w/ VNC. let's figure that out
stoned 2017-03-04 13:13:26
What are the contents of your xstart up, pastebin it
unborn 2017-03-04 13:13:46
ah like gui?forward x should worked for you.. however that would be only on your machine.. happening.. not on users one
piklu 2017-03-04 13:14:42
stoned : http://pastebin.com/isGZnv7y
unborn 2017-03-04 13:14:53
ffs for root operation you dont need to use gui.. for user interaction use something less complicated like funny closed software teamviewer - if you dont like ssh..
piklu 2017-03-04 13:15:28
stoned : ssh -X is not an option in mac ssh
stoned 2017-03-04 13:15:40
That's goofy.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:15:55
piklu: try as user, not root, then we'll see.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:16:18
stoned : you want me to switch vnc to a non root user and make the xstartup again?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:16:28
piklu: ls /root/.vnc/xstartup
stoned 2017-03-04 13:16:30
what it says?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:16:51
I bet you're having a startup file in user, and launching as root, and no file found, b/c root scusk.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:16:52
stoned : /root/.vnc/xstartup
stoned 2017-03-04 13:16:54
sucks*
piklu 2017-03-04 13:17:13
stoned : it is there
stoned 2017-03-04 13:17:15
thata's bizzare.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:17:22
stoned : exactly.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:17:23
you can edit it and sh says not found.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:17:28
hmm.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:17:28
stoned : yupp
stoned 2017-03-04 13:17:35
Is this debian?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:17:41
stoned : jessie
stoned 2017-03-04 13:17:44
ok
stoned 2017-03-04 13:18:02
piklu: does it work for user?
unborn 2017-03-04 13:18:13
piklu: are those machines on same network or?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:18:42
unborn : No. but they can connect pretty well, no issue in networking, since it logins and shows up a gray screen
piklu 2017-03-04 13:18:52
stoned : I will have to make a user and check
unborn 2017-03-04 13:19:04
sure piklu - what ports are you using for connection? or vpn?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:19:10
stoned : is XDMCP better than VNC
piklu 2017-03-04 13:19:17
unborn : 5901
unborn 2017-03-04 13:19:21
and?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:19:27
no vpn
piklu 2017-03-04 13:19:31
direct connection
stoned 2017-03-04 13:20:35
piklu: piklu target machien (one w/ vnc server) needs to have the xstartup file, it's on there right? and not on your client?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:20:48
stoned : absolutely on server :)
piklu 2017-03-04 13:20:59
piklu : both commands I pasted were on server
piklu 2017-03-04 13:21:09
stoned : and I run them using same root user.
unborn 2017-03-04 13:21:17
hm piklu and display number? since you connecting to linux
piklu 2017-03-04 13:21:18
piklu - client is a mac
stoned 2017-03-04 13:21:20
piklu: what are the permission son xstartup file
stoned 2017-03-04 13:21:26
piklu: ls -l
unborn 2017-03-04 13:21:34
like :0 or something
piklu 2017-03-04 13:23:02
-rwxr-xr-x
piklu 2017-03-04 13:25:21
stoned : How should I check if x11 is running properly
unborn 2017-03-04 13:26:16
perhaps its my karma.. I dont know
unborn 2017-03-04 13:26:37
piklu: try to tell your vnc to connect to specified screen
piklu 2017-03-04 13:26:54
unborn : you have to guide me
unborn 2017-03-04 13:26:55
I think you got connected correctly
unborn 2017-03-04 13:27:19
uhm
unborn 2017-03-04 13:27:24
sure I google it for you
unborn 2017-03-04 13:28:21
here piklu http://superuser.com/questions/391525/vnc-port-numbers?answertab=votes#tab-top rest you can do it your self
mendi 2017-03-04 13:28:33
,package php
mendi 2017-03-04 13:28:35
,php
mendi 2017-03-04 13:28:38
!php
dpkg 2017-03-04 13:28:38
PHP is a scripting language. To install, ask me about . See also , , , , , , , , . http://wiki.debian.org/PHP http://www.php.net/ #php on irc.oftc.net, #php and ##php on irc.freenode.net.
mendi 2017-03-04 13:29:04
which repo has php5 latest xD
stoned 2017-03-04 13:29:15
debian stable
stoned 2017-03-04 13:29:23
mainline repository
piklu 2017-03-04 13:29:24
stoned : the only port open is 5901
unborn 2017-03-04 13:29:31
mendi: you should try this in terminal apt-cache search --names-only ^* php5-
stoned 2017-03-04 13:29:37
Oh sorry, I went to go do somethign and I forgot what is happening
stoned 2017-03-04 13:30:25
,v php5-cli
judd 2017-03-04 13:31:48
Package: php5-cli on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u7; jessie: 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1
piklu 2017-03-04 13:31:58
stoned : I Tried x11 too.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:32:03
echo $DISPLAY is empty
stoned 2017-03-04 13:32:42
piklu: that could be an isue. Try connection to DISPLAY=0
stoned 2017-03-04 13:32:42
export $DISPLAY=0 on debian
stoned 2017-03-04 13:32:42
export DISPLAY=0 on debian
piklu 2017-03-04 13:32:42
stoned : export: `0=0': not a valid identifier
piklu 2017-03-04 13:32:42
stoned : cannot open displayE852: The child process failed to start the GUI
CeBe 2017-03-04 13:32:42
isn't that :0 instead of 0?
mendi 2017-03-04 13:32:42
^
CeBe 2017-03-04 13:32:46
export DISPLAY=:0
stoned 2017-03-04 13:32:54
):)
stoned 2017-03-04 13:32:56
0:0
mendi 2017-03-04 13:32:57
/etc/apt-get/sources.list is empty in debian 9 ? where did it move :(
stoned 2017-03-04 13:33:10
\o/
unborn 2017-03-04 13:33:13
mendi: the stable debian does have latest stable php5.. from that command I gave you you can select packages you want to install.. no need to install everything.. just cherrypick what you need
CeBe 2017-03-04 13:33:22
mendi: what is in /etc/apt-get/sources.list.d ?
mendi 2017-03-04 13:33:34
unborn not on debian 9 :s
stoned 2017-03-04 13:33:39
CeBe: main sources.list is alwyas in /apt/sources/
CeBe 2017-03-04 13:33:40
oh wait, that is /etc/apt/sources.list
unborn 2017-03-04 13:33:47
stoned: I pointed this earlier, but refused to spoon feeding.. well wasted time btw
mendi 2017-03-04 13:33:52
empty aswell cebe
mendi 2017-03-04 13:33:53
oh
stoned 2017-03-04 13:34:10
sorry /etc/apt/sources.list
unborn 2017-03-04 13:34:11
mendi: ah you are on testing... ? well... check wikis..
stoned 2017-03-04 13:34:14
!sources.list
dpkg 2017-03-04 13:34:14
A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see and "man sources.list".
mendi 2017-03-04 13:34:29
thanks unborn stoned
piklu 2017-03-04 13:35:11
stoned : export DISPLAY=:0
piklu 2017-03-04 13:35:13
same issue
piklu 2017-03-04 13:35:25
CeBe : same issue, unborn
stoned 2017-03-04 13:35:42
piklu: you have an Xserver on os x?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:36:04
piklu : the xserver is supposed to be on server debian or client os x?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:36:12
If you have an x server on your os x machine ( i dunno os x) you can use ssh -X
stoned 2017-03-04 13:36:23
piklu: xserver on vnc machine(debian)
unborn 2017-03-04 13:36:24
mendi: sorry I use only stable thingy for server.. I understand you may have run this on desktop or something.. perhaps php7? I think stretch have that included.. have look into that instead of php5
CeBe 2017-03-04 13:36:46
,v php7.0
judd 2017-03-04 13:36:47
Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.15-1; sid: 7.0.16-3
mendi 2017-03-04 13:36:47
yeah stretch has php7
unborn 2017-03-04 13:36:54
yap
stoned 2017-03-04 13:36:56
unborn: if it's a gray screen, then it mean maybe nothing is loading.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:36:57
stoned : you mean I need a x server on os x to connect to a debian server through ssh -x ?
CeBe 2017-03-04 13:37:01
,v php7.1
judd 2017-03-04 13:37:02
Package: php7.1 on amd64 -- sid: 7.1.0-5; sid: 7.1.1-1
stoned 2017-03-04 13:37:19
piklu: yes. for vnc, no.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:37:32
stoned : for ssh -X - yes ?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:38:09
piklu: vnc works two ways, 1) connect to an already running display, or 2) start a display (mosty on headless machines) and connect there
piklu 2017-03-04 13:38:35
stoned : Okay than
mendi 2017-03-04 13:38:44
!sources.list is wrong tho
dpkg 2017-03-04 13:38:44
...but sources.list is already something else...
stoned 2017-03-04 13:38:44
piklu: you need a LOCAL xserver running in order to launch xclients on remote machines (using ssh -X on local machine, with local xserver, you can view remote x apps)
mendi 2017-03-04 13:38:59
it's apt-get update not aptitude update xD
stoned 2017-03-04 13:39:13
piklu: does your debian machine run an Xserver? Or a desktop?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:39:30
stoned : First - mac os is client, debian is server
stoned 2017-03-04 13:39:42
piklu: what is your vnc doing? starting another X server session for itself, or using one already runnig ?
unborn 2017-03-04 13:39:43
stoned: yeah.. could mean he does not connect to correct screen or his ports are not opened correctly.. I would perhaps sounds idiotically but for newbie I would let him open port in both ways also I am not sure right now but I think he should have more then one port open - here is 0.38 am.. keep this in mind.. also it could be one another thing. when you install whatever vnc on your linux machine you must install that lightway gui - xcfe? without it,
unborn 2017-03-04 13:39:44
he would not load anything.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:40:02
it's not a port issue.
piklu 2017-03-04 13:40:23
stoned : http://pastebin.com/isGZnv7y
stoned 2017-03-04 13:40:29
gray screen probably means a launched connected X session, just no xstart up was launched.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:40:32
so nothing.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:40:43
you can still probably run xterm on it and make it conenct to the already running display
unborn 2017-03-04 13:41:03
stoned: been while since I used vnc for linux, ssh or vpn was worked for me.. perhaps it would be much easier to suggest the user to use proprietary software like teamviewer quick support, unless user is seeking making something out of it..
stoned 2017-03-04 13:41:14
\o/
stoned 2017-03-04 13:41:43
xsetroot -solid grey
stoned 2017-03-04 13:41:45
see
stoned 2017-03-04 13:41:51
it connects, it launches something, makes it grey
stoned 2017-03-04 13:41:53
it's running
stoned 2017-03-04 13:42:08
not a port issue.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:42:14
just that xserver is empty
stoned 2017-03-04 13:42:22
no apps or clients are connected to it when vnc launches
stoned 2017-03-04 13:42:46
up to xsetroot =solid gry it works (since you reprted it is a gray window)
stoned 2017-03-04 13:42:53
x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
unborn 2017-03-04 13:42:55
stoned possibly he installed without de specified for vnc
stoned 2017-03-04 13:42:58
this doesnt seem to work
stoned 2017-03-04 13:43:08
comment this out, and change to xterm.
stoned 2017-03-04 13:43:14
also, isntall xbase-clients on your debian machine
piklu 2017-03-04 13:43:27
stoned ?
piklu 2017-03-04 13:44:17
stoned: you want me to comment that line and say startx?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:44:24
piklu: does the debian machine have xorg installed?
stoned 2017-03-04 13:44:34
full xorg packages, not minimal xsever-xorg-core or something
piklu 2017-03-04 13:44:36
piklu : yes it does now
unborn 2017-03-04 13:44:45
now :D
unborn 2017-03-04 13:44:47
lols
stoned 2017-03-04 13:44:53
unborn: not helping. stop.
