topyli 2017-03-07 08:48:15
just switch your repos to testing first, then sid. make backups and pray
topyli 2017-03-07 08:49:20
the best way to install sid is to install stable first anyway and then upgrade
ambient 2017-03-07 08:49:47
topyli, It is not like I can just go to advanced options at boot and pick another version, it is an all-or-nothing proposition
ambient 2017-03-07 08:49:55
?
ambient 2017-03-07 08:50:12
Like after the upgrade
ambient 2017-03-07 08:50:34
I did a kernel upgrade and that did not work out so I switch to earlier kernels that do
topyli 2017-03-07 08:51:13
the installer doesn't propose options to you. you install stable and upgrade
topyli 2017-03-07 08:52:15
so you install as little as you can, basic system only. then change your repos and upgrade. only then you'll install whatever desktops or applications you like
ambient 2017-03-07 08:52:55
topyli, I read that it is best to upgrade on a fresh install. An install that has been there a few months is asking for trouble...is this so?
greycat 2017-03-07 08:53:29
There is virtually no difference between stable-three-months-ago and stable-today.
greycat 2017-03-07 08:53:38
That's what stable means.
topyli 2017-03-07 08:54:03
ambient: i don't know the truth, but i like to do fresh installs in that situation. then just recover your backups and enjoy
topyli 2017-03-07 08:55:00
greycat: exactly
ambient 2017-03-07 08:55:21
greycat, I think the author may have been referring to the fact that a lot of packages are pulled in that have to be mitigated
greycat 2017-03-07 08:55:23
Yes, the size/number of packages can be an issue, but not the age.
greycat 2017-03-07 08:55:23
As long as you aren't skipping an entire release.
ambient 2017-03-07 08:55:23
I install a lot of stuff for audio/video/graphics. It was suggested that for some programs, it is better to go with sid
topyli 2017-03-07 08:56:19
ambient: right now i'm chatting on my audio workstation or studio or whatever. it is what i would call a "production" or a "critical" system. so i always use stable, there are backports available if you really feel your libreoffice is too old
topyli 2017-03-07 08:56:45
ambient: on my laptop, i run the latest stuff because it's not "critical"
ambient 2017-03-07 08:57:26
topyli, I was thinking the way you do, but on the Ardour channel, they were pointing out that some lv2 plugins on stable are ancient
topyli 2017-03-07 08:57:49
they may be
ambient 2017-03-07 08:58:13
Calf Studio Gear kept crashing, but I heard that is normal for calf
topyli 2017-03-07 08:58:15
of course, you'll add the kxstudios repositories there and have the latest multimedia crap
topyli 2017-03-07 08:59:25
ambient: join #kxstudio and ask them what they think. they're frienly people and artists and geeks
ambient 2017-03-07 09:00:19
topyli, I am just a newb
ambient 2017-03-07 09:01:10
I am trying to understand all this, thanks for the advice though
topyli 2017-03-07 09:11:52
ambient: that's fine. everybody's a newbie at first
RebelCoder 2017-03-07 09:12:33
Hey guys. for some odd reason, after a fresh install there is no Battery indicator available and I can;t find it
RebelCoder 2017-03-07 09:12:37
I use LXQt
tobiasBora 2017-03-07 09:13:24
Hello,
topyli 2017-03-07 09:15:07
tobiasBora: just speak. "hello" is nothing on irc
topyli 2017-03-07 09:15:32
"don't ask permission to ask a question" as they say
tobiasBora 2017-03-07 09:15:46
topyli: Yes I know, but I need some time ti write my question ;)
topyli 2017-03-07 09:15:55
oh ok
tobiasBora 2017-03-07 09:17:05
I upgraded this afternoon, and I don't know why, icedove now pop's up when I open it with a message telling me If you see this message box something went wrong while
tobiasBora 2017-03-07 09:17:07
adopting your Icedove profile(s) into the Thunderbird
tobiasBora 2017-03-07 09:17:18
profile folder!
tobiasBora 2017-03-07 09:19:20
oh it's ok
ewew 2017-03-07 09:25:35
Hi. Is there a place where i can download autopsy 4 ?
BluesKaj 2017-03-07 09:26:40
!warez
dpkg 2017-03-07 09:26:40
it has been said that warez is what GNU/Linux people do not need to run their computers and talk about in mundane ubergeek parties. http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?id=275 or http://www.blerp.org/warez/
ewew 2017-03-07 09:28:14
you could say its not available for linux-
MacFloss 2017-03-07 09:30:08
Hi, currently I have an application running on a server and it is exporting the display to a thin client. When the application start "appears" automatically in the client.
MacFloss 2017-03-07 09:30:56
I want to improve the bandwidth used compressing X protocol.
MacFloss 2017-03-07 09:30:59
I did it in the past with ssh -XC... but I don't want to connect from the client, I mean, I want to continue "sending" X from the server. Any ideas?
ngong 2017-03-07 09:35:44
I would need some help with a Debian package. What dpkg -l reports differs from what is on my system
ngong 2017-03-07 09:36:06
dpkg -l antrl* reports, that I have 2.7.7 on my system. When I start /usr/bin/antlr it reports Version 1.33MR33
dpkg 2017-03-07 09:36:06
ii antrl* reports, that I have 2.7.7 on my system. When I start /usr/bin/antlr it reports Version 1.33MR33 3.3-1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
greycat 2017-03-07 09:37:15
wooledg@wooledg:~$ apt-cache search --names-only antrl
greycat 2017-03-07 09:37:15
wooledg@wooledg:~$
ngong 2017-03-07 09:41:37
greycat: https://paste.debian.net/918643/
semitones_ 2017-03-07 09:41:44
Hey there -- I installed a version of debian jessie to act as a home server, and I've got a few basic questions -- like how can I track the temperature and fan speed, and is it possible to turn off power to unnecessary pci and pcie cards at startup?
greycat 2017-03-07 09:42:33
You typoed it.
semitones_ 2017-03-07 09:43:10
Ideally I would find a good guide and start reading that, but one that is based in the systemd world and all that
greycat 2017-03-07 09:43:10
So, start with ls -ld /usr/bin/antlr
ngong 2017-03-07 09:43:48
greycat: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 345696 Feb 14 2010 /usr/bin/antlr
greycat 2017-03-07 09:45:29
Not an alternatives thing? Dunno.
