ewew 2017-03-04 08:47:31
Hestben why is it so slow ?
axujen 2017-03-04 08:47:58
jhutchins, 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) [8086:8100] (rev 07)
Hestben 2017-03-04 08:48:03
The amount of read errors suggest that it has to restart a lot.
Hestben 2017-03-04 08:48:45
ewew: But I have mostly used it to copy dvds before, so I am not an expert on how many read errors are normal etc.
ewew 2017-03-04 08:49:08
well im copying a 450 GB partition on failing disk.
Hestben 2017-03-04 08:50:21
ewew: I feel with you. One of those late reminders of the importance of having a working backup of critical files etc
Hestben 2017-03-04 08:50:49
ewew: and using smartd that monitors disks and sends out mails when error counts goes up
ewew 2017-03-04 08:54:29
Hestben I wonder how long it will take to finish this. Its not funny to have computer running 6 days in the row.
Hestben 2017-03-04 08:56:14
ewew: Yes, I can see that that is frustrating. I guess you could make a guess from the "mean rate" and how much data remains to copy.
ewew 2017-03-04 08:58:20
im on the fly extracting data. so i know whats there.
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:03:32
RPi's are good for dumb copies. With docking stations ofc.
caesar__ 2017-03-04 09:04:39
Test
Torinko 2017-03-04 09:05:35
new branch test on irc
Torinko 2017-03-04 09:05:46
caesar__: interesting
caesar__ 2017-03-04 09:06:34
i cant see my typing words...
Torinko 2017-03-04 09:06:43
i see too
mendi 2017-03-04 09:12:46
hi friends debian or centos for hosting?
mendi 2017-03-04 09:13:19
im more familiar with deb but centos seems to eat way less resources (~130MB)
th_ 2017-03-04 09:13:47
debian 4 life
bzed 2017-03-04 09:14:22
mendi: the size of the installer does not tell you how much it needs on disk.
caesar__ 2017-03-04 09:14:25
Torkino_ Now i see my written words :-) I've changed my textcolours :-)
mendi 2017-03-04 09:14:27
any idea on how much the no gui version eats eats?
mendi 2017-03-04 09:14:36
@bzed im talking about ram
mendi 2017-03-04 09:14:54
im kinda limited to 1GB
th_ 2017-03-04 09:14:59
kevin mitnick ^ hello
th_ 2017-03-04 09:15:15
:D
th_ 2017-03-04 09:16:34
so mysql is now mariadb on debian?
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:17:50
I belive both are available, choose the one you want.
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:17:52
,v mysql
judd 2017-03-04 09:17:54
No package named 'mysql' was found in amd64.
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:18:39
hmm, guess I'm not seeing mysql in stretch, in jessie you have both.
mendi 2017-03-04 09:18:51
mariadb is the engine
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:18:59
,v mysql-client
judd 2017-03-04 09:19:00
Package: mysql-client on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.47-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.53-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.54-0+deb7u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.7.17-1
th_ 2017-03-04 09:19:02
i installed mariadb, but the server is still called "mysqld"
mendi 2017-03-04 09:19:50
does debian have uptodate apache repository?
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:20:07
mendi: what do you mean by that? You want a newer version of apache in say debian jessie?
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:20:10
,v apache2
judd 2017-03-04 09:20:11
Package: apache2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u8; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u7; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u8; stretch: 2.4.25-3; sid: 2.4.25-3
mendi 2017-03-04 09:20:30
in centos we have to compile them ourselves @somiaj
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:20:30
mendi: looks like the offically supported apache in debian is 2.4.10
mendi 2017-03-04 09:20:43
does debian have a compiled pkg
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:21:19
mendi: the bot just listed the version of apache that comes with the different debian releases. In jessie if you want something newer than 2.4.10 you'll have to compile it yourself and also provide security support yourself.
bzed 2017-03-04 09:21:35
somiaj, mendi: mysql 5.7 is in stretch
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:21:54
bzed: what is the package name, I couldn't find it.
bzed 2017-03-04 09:22:19
mendi: ram is also not a question of the distribution. it depend son the softwre you are usung and the traffic.
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:23:08
bzed: I am seing various packages that work with mysql, but not seeing the mysql-client or mysql-server in stretch.
mendi 2017-03-04 09:23:13
@bzed without any software or gui how much memory does debian eat
th_ 2017-03-04 09:23:29
its now moved to mariadb-server, that installs mysqld
mendi 2017-03-04 09:23:33
I mean just the core
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:23:39
depends on how muc debian is installed and active.
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:24:05
th_: sure, but my understanding was mariadb and mysql are no longer the same, they are forks when oracle got ahold of mysql.
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:24:20
I'm often about 70MB - 140MB before I X and browser
mendi 2017-03-04 09:24:44
seriously??
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:24:54
mendi: the core is not really a good judge, because most likely it won't have the software you will be running, but the install guide lists the minimial requirements.
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:25:00
And there's cassandra, drizzle, and other forks
th_ 2017-03-04 09:25:09
im confused why the daemon is still named mysqld and not like mariadbd
bzed 2017-03-04 09:25:37
somiaj: ah sorry, it was removed, indeed
bzed 2017-03-04 09:26:07
somiaj: mariadb is compatible to mysql
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:26:29
th_: there might be compadability issues in which renaming everything would cause issues so it kept the same name in the code.
th_ 2017-03-04 09:26:44
true
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:26:48
I was watching youtube on my 512MB machine up till about two years ago. When ads started cresting 512MB
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:27:49
And old P4 laptop. 2.8GHz 32 bit single core for some things it's still beast relative to my other low specs hardware
mendi 2017-03-04 09:27:56
can I install a GUI and configure debian to run with no GUI by default?
somiaj 2017-03-04 09:28:26
mendi: just disable or don't install a display manager if you don't want the gui to load at boot. Then manually run it with startx.
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:28:56
mendi: as long as the gui doesn't grab a display manager. Or you do the "false" thing in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
mendi 2017-03-04 09:28:58
oh nice thanks somiaj
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 09:29:11
dpkg nodm
dpkg 2017-03-04 09:29:11
Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/).
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:33:12
I have a good install of Wordpress on my company server (debian) and a bad one, I'm trying to fix on another. Is www-data a system user and do I need to create that user account prior to a chown on the bad Wordpress file structure?
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:34:15
I guess the question is: is www-data a default system user upon an installation of apache on debian?
missmbob 2017-03-04 09:34:38
piratepete: no. that'll break wordpress
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:35:14
missmbob: start fresh??
missmbob 2017-03-04 09:35:18
yes
unborn 2017-03-04 09:35:22
piratepete: if you want to be able modify those files but still able to process by www-data - just add your self to group and whatever you need to do..
unborn 2017-03-04 09:36:13
piratepete: but I do say the correct way would be su and change your user to www-data and then manipulate the files..
unborn 2017-03-04 09:36:45
but if wordpress is bad then dont waste your time, just replace with new one
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:36:50
unborn: the problem is ... everything is root:root
unborn 2017-03-04 09:36:57
- unless you know what your are doing
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:37:04
unborn: I must have been in a hurry
unborn 2017-03-04 09:37:11
yes thats wrong piratepete
unborn 2017-03-04 09:37:29
give it back to www-data:www-data
unborn 2017-03-04 09:37:33
and see then
unborn 2017-03-04 09:37:57
btw whats bad about that wordpress install piratepete
unborn 2017-03-04 09:37:58
?
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:38:09
thanks folks. I'm off to fix this or destroy it :-)
missmbob 2017-03-04 09:38:26
no it's not :P
Hestben 2017-03-04 09:38:55
on the topic of wordpress installs, I would like to tip about the tool wpi-cli - Install and configure wordpress from the command line
unborn 2017-03-04 09:38:58
root:root because you've been in hurry is poor excuse - I believe that you did not read whole docs out there.. anyway. good luck piratepete
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:39:33
my root power is kind of like Trumps. I'm a Java professional with dangerous system admin knowledge
unborn 2017-03-04 09:40:05
Hestben: sorry, I left my self to carry on without realising that this is debian support channel.. I just lost it.. so whats the issue?
unborn 2017-03-04 09:40:30
heh not politics and other crap..please
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:40:32
unborn: the wife says I need to read the instructions everytime
unborn 2017-03-04 09:40:54
sysops does say same piratepete
jhutchins 2017-03-04 09:42:12
Well that's annoying. Installed the 64b kernel and now Nvidia won't complete.
jhutchins 2017-03-04 09:42:35
Actually, the problem was with dkms.
jhutchins 2017-03-04 09:42:51
I presume I need to install some 64b headers...
piratepete 2017-03-04 09:44:59
unborn: awesome! chown -R www-data:www-data worked and Wordpress updated with a button push without error
