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Monday, March 6, 2017

#debian channel featuring piklu, ktechmidas, RebelCoder, Digz, Iridos, sim590,

Iridos 2017-03-06 17:45:17
ktechmidas, you can find it with dlocate bin/netstat (or dpkg -S instead of dlocate) … or using apt-file if it's not installed… it's in net-tools
ktechmidas 2017-03-06 17:47:17
Iridos: thanks :) found it
ktechmidas 2017-03-06 17:47:34
it wasn't installed which was the issue... not sure why
Iridos 2017-03-06 17:48:50
install apt-file for cases like that
Iridos 2017-03-06 17:51:57
sim590, also #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is focusing on testing/unstable… not that they'd have a magic wand for messed up dependencies… but for all problems happening because new packages bring them in, that's the place to go
Iridos 2017-03-06 17:55:13
also… I'd actually like to have a mess like this to look at… we were working off and on on something to visualize dependencies… but I'd want some cases with conflicts to see how you can show something useful from the graph
Iridos 2017-03-06 17:56:10
but this is 6am and I woke up at 4… so I'm much too tired to think about how to get that state transferred… maybe the status file in /var/lib/dpkg/status + the sources.list files?
sim590 2017-03-06 18:10:10
I had this same sort of problems 2-3 years ago when I first started with debian. I couldn't resolve these problems and I went onto Archlinux and never had any problems then. Plus, I was running up to date software. Now, I tell myself I'll come back and give a try to debian and unserstand the branching system, but it seems that after 2-3 years, I get the same problems and I still cannot resolve them. I'm
sim590 2017-03-06 18:10:12
forced to think that debian packaging is just a mess if you want to get up to date packages.
Digz 2017-03-06 18:12:24
debian isn't meant to have latest/newest, it prefers the most stable packages for a lot longer than other debian based releases.... ubuntu is much newer, so is mint, and there are a dozen other releases probably. Since I use debian primarily as a server, I don't mind it having the most stable version of everything, and I will update the things that I want updated myself.... but thats just my opinion.
piklu 2017-03-06 18:25:13
That is the exact reason I love debian !!!
piklu 2017-03-06 18:25:21
No broken shit here
RebelCoder 2017-03-06 18:42:24
Guys, is LXDE desktop still being developed ? LXQt a replacement for it or something ?
RebelCoder 2017-03-06 18:43:10
I want to install Deboan with LXDE on an old system as it seems to be the fastest Desktop
RebelCoder 2017-03-06 18:43:18
*Debian