unborn 2017-03-04 11:45:28
scroll your self out there.. please dont spam
bazhang 2017-03-04 11:45:48
unborn, let's leave it be
artificial 2017-03-04 11:53:47
I changed my sources to stretch, but after running update and upgrade. Nothing changed. 0 packets were upgraded.
towo` 2017-03-04 11:54:14
because you need dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
artificial 2017-03-04 11:54:22
I did that
unborn 2017-03-04 11:54:29
piratepete: glat to helped you and as you said wife or not always read the mans ;) enjoy your wordpress
unborn 2017-03-04 11:54:52
jhutchins: are you on i3 or 6?
unborn 2017-03-04 11:55:14
i mean i386 or 64 ? I had issues on i386
unborn 2017-03-04 11:56:56
when on 64bit I was able to make my quadro grfs working but it was not good for me.. vlc was freezing and all other sort of issues.. so I did changed my laptop for more friendly hardware but perhaps your gfcs is fully supported
towo` 2017-03-04 11:57:16
artificial, you did what?
unborn 2017-03-04 11:57:22
artificial: you did what?
unborn 2017-03-04 11:57:51
artificial: if you installed as towo` said, you would not need to touch sources.. what are you saying?
artificial 2017-03-04 11:58:40
towo`: unborn I changed sources.list from jessie to stretch. Ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Yet no packages were upgraded.
unborn 2017-03-04 11:58:45
I mean if you installed from netinstall.. if you done just update to your respos list, you need dist-upgrade
unborn 2017-03-04 11:59:11
artificial: did you run dist-upgrade before those other commands?
towo` 2017-03-04 11:59:30
artificial, provide the output of apt-cache policy on a pastebin
unborn 2017-03-04 11:59:49
artificial: ^^^
artificial 2017-03-04 12:00:58
towo`: http://dpaste.com/16NBHCT
towo` 2017-03-04 12:01:18
artificial, have you used your brain?
artificial 2017-03-04 12:01:39
Friendly environment here
towo` 2017-03-04 12:01:52
there is no main debian repo in your sources
unborn 2017-03-04 12:02:41
you got it wrong man
artificial 2017-03-04 12:03:14
I dont? "500 http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates/main Translation-en"
towo` 2017-03-04 12:03:52
there are no stretch/updates (yet) and http://security.debian.org is not the normal debian repo
unborn 2017-03-04 12:05:26
artificial: please forgive me, do you know that stretch is frozen and its not stable as jessie - perhaps it is but its still not released? means if you dont know how to add the correct repo - which is on debian wiki pages - then you should stay on stable system eg jessie..?
unborn 2017-03-04 12:05:36
just asking
unborn 2017-03-04 12:06:32
...or perhaps I am very wrong at this..
artificial 2017-03-04 12:06:37
unborn: I would use jessie, but my hardware is pretty recent and requires kernel 4.6+
towo` 2017-03-04 12:06:50
and bpo has kernel 4.9
towo` 2017-03-04 12:07:09
no need for going to stretch, even if you do it wrong
unborn 2017-03-04 12:07:24
artificial: aha.. I see.. it works on ubuntu but not on jessie, I mean debian current
artificial 2017-03-04 12:08:58
Im just trying out Debian, thinking of switching from Gentoo. Wanted something more stable and was originally going to get jessie, but I noticed jessie uses 3.16. So forgive me if I am a bit uninformed in the debian terminology.
epsilon 2017-03-04 12:10:56
nothing wrong using backport kernel, many people do it for new hardware
artificial 2017-03-04 12:11:37
Is jessie recommended for a desktop? Or is it too stale?
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:11:52
i rebooted that solved the issue
epsilon 2017-03-04 12:11:53
absolutly recommended
linuxgoof 2017-03-04 12:12:16
apparently udev required the features of the new kernel to install
unborn 2017-03-04 12:12:22
artificial: i was using gentoo from 2007 to 2009 :) it was well stable but well annoying.. everything manually done.. not even eth was working without editing configs.. got fed up with it and leave it.. you are more then welcome to do latest unstable tests.. here is wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting with all links you need.
epsilon 2017-03-04 12:12:23
nothing wrong with it, yet some stuff may be outdated if you come from bleeding edge linux
Shadow_7_ 2017-03-04 12:13:24
I installed gentoo over dialup in 2004
unborn 2017-03-04 12:13:52
Shadow_7_: I was too young that time to understand the computers.. :)
epsilon 2017-03-04 12:14:04
.oO once it has finished, you had LTE
unborn 2017-03-04 12:17:47
epsilon: great point :)
mendi 2017-03-04 12:19:50
does debian gui installer automatically format?
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:20:54
mendi what do you mean with automatiicaly?
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:21:17
the ui and gui have the same option, the latter only looks "better"
mendi 2017-03-04 12:21:33
I know they both use gparted but
mendi 2017-03-04 12:21:54
does it remove all files or leave left overs if you don't manually format?
unborn 2017-03-04 12:22:02
live patch - wold that be in next release ? - anyone knows?
mendi 2017-03-04 12:22:35
I always formatted the partitions myself to be sure Nik05 xD
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:22:39
mendi it will probably remove everything if you choose to put it automatically on a drive
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:23:01
but that is the same for the other installers, not specific to the gui installer
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:24:21
but i think you can let it create partitions automatically on free space mendi
unborn 2017-03-04 12:24:40
ah it will be :)
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:25:17
i wonder if something changed regarding wireshark. i used to be able to decode any tcp stream as "SSL". Now that option is just missing, the list of protocols goes from SSH to STANAG. my kali vm and my friends ubuntu still have it. does anyone have an idea?
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:25:38
i'm on debian testing btw
petemc 2017-03-04 12:25:56
Blitzgewitter-: works for me, does it not go green when you type ssl ?
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:26:26
petemc: that's not what i mean. rightclick on a tcp packet -> decode as -> set current to SSL
petemc 2017-03-04 12:26:34
h
unborn 2017-03-04 12:26:35
Blitzgewitter-: ssl is too board, what set you looking at?
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:26:59
Blitzgewitter- since what version do you have this?
unborn 2017-03-04 12:27:20
i mean ciphers
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:27:28
Nik05: can't say for sure. wireshark is now v2.2.4
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:27:32
i think it worked a few months ago
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:27:45
unborn: i don't understand the question
unborn 2017-03-04 12:28:08
Blitzgewitter-: ah I see.. well then.
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:29:01
Blitzgewitter- after septembre?
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:29:29
then 2.2.0 came out on debian
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:29:50
Nik05: actually, i believe it worked ~3 weeks ago. i don't use this feature very often, sorry
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:30:05
oh wait that is on unstable, not sure what the version in testing was
Nik05 2017-03-04 12:33:21
only bug fixes Blitzgewitter-
Blitzgewitter- 2017-03-04 12:33:28
hm
epsilon 2017-03-04 12:33:47
artificial: it's done automated (and IIRC you have even 2 kernel to select in grub)
awal1 2017-03-04 12:35:37
mendi, any free space (x partition, entire disk...) you decide to use will be formated completely, except an existing linux swap, if not told to do
Verity 2017-03-04 12:36:58
checking Python's configuration directory... (cached)
Verity 2017-03-04 12:36:58
can't find it!
Verity 2017-03-04 12:36:58
configure: error: could not configure python
Verity 2017-03-04 12:37:09
trying to install VIM 7.4 on debian, what is going on?
unborn 2017-03-04 12:37:44
Verity: and whats your question actually?
Verity 2017-03-04 12:37:44
its already such an annoying waste of time just getting it running its proving to me there is no reason to swtich
unborn 2017-03-04 12:38:48
Verity: plonk - good luck with your rubbish
awal1 2017-03-04 12:39:05
artificial, no
stoned 2017-03-04 12:39:06
dude.
awal1 2017-03-04 12:40:14
btw, bpo also are official
piklu 2017-03-04 12:43:21
Hi
piklu 2017-03-04 12:43:37
any brave soul here to help debug my tightvnc with gnome, its not working, shows up a gray screen
Verity 2017-03-04 12:43:51
piklu, what does the job pay
piklu 2017-03-04 12:43:59
Verity : respect mostly
jrtc27 2017-03-04 12:44:58
,v vim
judd 2017-03-04 12:45:00
Package: vim on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:7.3.547-7; wheezy-security: 2:7.3.547-7+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 2:7.4.488-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; sid: 2:8.0.0197-2; stretch: 2:8.0.0197-2
