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Thursday, March 9, 2017

#debian channel featuring sim590, dax, tomg2, jpw, Etothetaui, dpkg, and 5 others.

Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:04:01
hi
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:04:11
does anyone know why sudo apt autoremove doesnt work
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:04:28
I'm getting "Invalid operation autoremove"
babilen 2017-03-09 11:04:54
Etothetaui: You want apt-get for that
dax 2017-03-09 11:05:13
the version of apt in stable doesn't do autoremove
dax 2017-03-09 11:05:18
so yeah, apt-get
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:05:22
oh
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:05:25
cool
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:05:26
ok
greycat 2017-03-09 11:05:27
stretch's apt has autoremove; jessie's doesn't
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:05:32
gotcha
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:05:59
stretch is still in development right?
greycat 2017-03-09 11:07:49
It's testing, currently frozen.
babilen 2017-03-09 11:08:30
It is indeed (but will be released soon)
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:11:16
If I'm still new at this would it be a bad idea to switch to that?
pansophical 2017-03-09 11:11:58
babilen: how soon is soon
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:11:58
should I wait till its released?
babilen 2017-03-09 11:11:58
pansophical: We don't know, but I'd say 3-4 months are likely
babilen 2017-03-09 11:11:58
Etothetaui: Wait with what?
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:11:58
like should I keep using jessie till stretch comes out
pansophical 2017-03-09 11:11:58
babilen: is that a fixed time length after every freeze or dependent on the situation at hand?
babilen 2017-03-09 11:11:58
It always depends on the situation at hand. There are no fixed release dates.
greycat 2017-03-09 11:11:58
!stretch pool 1
dpkg 2017-03-09 11:11:58
! nauticalnexus=2017-04-19 cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbīlen=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themíll=2017-05-01
babilen 2017-03-09 11:11:58
Etothetaui: That really depends on your situation and your requirements. On a workstation, laptop or desktop I'd happily run stretch at the moment, but I see no harm in waiting for the actual release either.
Etothetaui 2017-03-09 11:11:58
cools
sim590 2017-03-09 11:18:36
if I kill pulseaudio, it starts back and it's using 8% CPU as normal.
sim590 2017-03-09 11:18:36
It has been doing that from time to time.
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:18:36
pulseaudio is appallingly buggy, try ALSA
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:18:36
or just about anything else ;) it's the only thing I have to offer
jpw 2017-03-09 11:20:46
would you consider 8% normal?
sim590 2017-03-09 11:24:22
jpw: I think it is normal than 20-30%.
sim590 2017-03-09 11:24:28
more*
psychoticwarrior 2017-03-09 11:25:50
does anybody like junkie sluts
sim590 2017-03-09 11:26:03
If I stop my music, then it goes down to 6, so.. I guess it's reasonable.
psychoticwarrior 2017-03-09 11:26:10
yup
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:27:33
sim590: it's not reasonable, I'm afraid
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:27:45
playing zero music should result in 0 cpu usage
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:28:16
you can try remedying pulseaudio somehow, or just don't use it. it's not good for much actually
psychoticwarrior 2017-03-09 11:28:30
get a sub and speakers
psychoticwarrior 2017-03-09 11:28:35
that should be good
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:28:37
a sound server or daemon isn't necessary anyway
teraflops 2017-03-09 11:35:16
im idling at 0/1% CPU and I'm using pulseaudio...
teraflops 2017-03-09 11:35:25
and mpd
sim590 2017-03-09 11:37:08
psychoticwarrior: I don,t like moving my hands. That's why I use synergy, awesomeWM, vim, qutebrowser, etc.
psychoticwarrior 2017-03-09 11:38:41
nice
sim590 2017-03-09 11:38:41
wow. https://i.imgur.com/wQbxzyA.jpg. pulseaudio is not very nice!
sim590 2017-03-09 11:38:41
it's nice value is -11!!!
sim590 2017-03-09 11:38:41
Is it considered okay?
psychoticwarrior 2017-03-09 11:40:36
pulseaudio is alright
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:41:22
sim590: I can only recommend looking for some other software that lets you share audio between laptops
tomg2 2017-03-09 11:41:39
i wonder how a user-owned process gets a nice of -11 without suid anyway. please don't say consolekit/policykit/dbus/systemd