jhutchins_wk 2017-03-01 05:47:04
rockon: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html
rockon 2017-03-01 05:47:42
thanks a lot jhutchins_wk
it0 2017-03-01 05:47:47
Hi everyone, hope you're all doing fine :)
raynold 2017-03-01 05:50:20
ahh it's a wonderful day
ambient 2017-03-01 05:52:36
After upgrading the debian kernel, what are the next steps to point all the drivers, such as graphics, to the new kernel so that they may be used?
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 05:53:03
reboot if all things are provided by the distro
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 05:53:22
otherwise recompile / install the non-distro supplied bits
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-01 05:55:12
ambient: If you have dkms modules they should recompile themselves on boot.
drs 2017-03-01 05:56:00
is there a way to build new kernels quicker than make deb-pkg (since that does a make clean, every time?)
ambient 2017-03-01 05:56:25
jhutchins_wk, Regrettably, this did not happen.
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-01 05:56:25
ambient: Mostly the "drivers" are kernel modules, and are supplied with the kernel.
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-01 05:56:45
ambient: Just repeat the process you used to compile them in the first place. You'll need the new kernel headers.
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 05:57:20
drs: old school kernel making, but you bypass the package management that way. make localmodconfig && make modules_install && make install ... or whatever applies
ambient 2017-03-01 05:57:49
jhutchins_wk, I did not compile the drivers in the first place, I installed them.
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 05:57:53
drs: there's also ccache that might help speed things up even with make clean
drs 2017-03-01 05:57:54
thanks Shadow_7
drs 2017-03-01 05:58:07
(well this is an intel atom)
n-iCe 2017-03-01 05:58:08
I'm bored, what can I do with my Debian system?
ambient 2017-03-01 05:58:15
jhutchins_wk, When you say new kernel headers, what do you mean?
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 05:58:41
drs: and older one? cmoov missing?
petn-randall 2017-03-01 05:58:42
n-iCe: You could start fixing bugs for stretch :)
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 05:59:31
or install flash and welcome your neighboring netizens to take control of your system.
n-iCe 2017-03-01 05:59:42
petn-randall: I don't think I know how to, would love though.
n-iCe 2017-03-01 05:59:47
I'm just a normal user.
petn-randall 2017-03-01 06:00:04
n-iCe: Well, we all started as users at some point. Small steps :)
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:00:20
n-iCe: cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
drs 2017-03-01 06:00:54
Shadow_7: no this is new.. using amd64, it's a baytrail
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:00:57
n-iCe: networking is an interesting subject. bash (or shell ) scripting is an interesting subject. packaging too. etc.
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:01:05
:) ... just kidding of course. But there's lots of bugs or videos on various sites out there
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:01:36
ssh, git. cool too
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:01:36
drs: trying to squeeze the most out of it?
drs 2017-03-01 06:01:52
Shadow_7: just trying to get it to work on something other than Windows 10.
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:02:12
drs: does it not boot from USB?
drs 2017-03-01 06:02:30
Shadow_7: everything works fine with efifb, just not inteldrm
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:02:44
debian is pretty atom friendly IME. Even worked on my dads 1GB atom, that ubuntu crashed on while doing a simple dd
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:03:10
drs: intel-gpu-tools ?
drs 2017-03-01 06:03:23
Shadow_7: i probably need to move to linux-next, even 4.10.1 isn't liking the i915
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:04:06
drs: there's a list of required packages for ark.intel.com or dev. or something. The intel GPU has a few deps, probably not all of them are installed.
n-iCe 2017-03-01 06:04:24
n4dir: problem is, I'm not a tech guy, I'm actually a Dentist lol, not sure why would I use bash, shell scripting for :p
n-iCe 2017-03-01 06:04:54
I was thinking about, maybe install a software, change my DE, you know.
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:05:02
n-iCe: shell scripting goes a long way. Just start somewhere and take it easy.
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:05:15
http://mywiki.wooledge.org is good
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:05:30
if i can script in 10 years i am fine
n-iCe 2017-03-01 06:06:02
how old are you?
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:06:24
old. 46, and i didn't touch a PC before i was 36 ... :-)
n-iCe 2017-03-01 06:06:43
and you code?
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:06:44
n-iCe: but sure, if you care more for change DE or such. That is fun too.
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:06:48
a little bit.
n-iCe 2017-03-01 06:06:55
awesome!
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:07:04
i start, i stop, like that
n4dir 2017-03-01 06:07:18
bash is ok to learn. all other languages are way beyond me
drs 2017-03-01 06:07:48
Shadow_7: i'm rebuilding the kernel with i915 driver debugging, we'll see what i can learn from that.
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:09:26
drs: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/ the community for the intel drivers I guess...
Shadow_7 2017-03-01 06:12:17
drs: mes3d, xserver-xorg-video-intel libdrm, cairo, libva-intel-vaapi-driver and other deps
ambient 2017-03-01 06:12:34
jhutchins, http://pastebin.com/U5uDejff
ambient 2017-03-01 06:14:28
jhutchins_wk, http://pastebin.com/ceCiepce
ambient 2017-03-01 06:15:13
jhutchins_wk, , http://pastebin.com/U5uDejff
the_punisher 2017-03-01 06:15:54
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
ambient 2017-03-01 06:16:58
ambient, Looks like the graphics driver does not like the kernel update, hence why I cannot get it to work
ambient 2017-03-01 06:17:43
jhutchins_wk, Looks like the graphics driver does not like the kernel update
towo` 2017-03-01 06:17:58
fglrx will never build against kernel 4.9
towo` 2017-03-01 06:18:06
and btw, fglrx is a dead horse
towo` 2017-03-01 06:18:24
you should really purge that crap and use radeon
ambient 2017-03-01 06:18:37
towo`, So dual monitors are out of the question for linux 4.9?
towo` 2017-03-01 06:18:57
the free driver has zero problems with dual monitor
ambient 2017-03-01 06:19:33
towo`, The free drivers won't support my graphics card either
towo` 2017-03-01 06:19:49
i would never believe that
towo` 2017-03-01 06:20:01
lspci | grep -i VGA
ambient 2017-03-01 06:20:06
towo`, What graphics card do you have?
towo` 2017-03-01 06:20:26
ambient, does it matter?
towo` 2017-03-01 06:20:42
r7 something
ambient 2017-03-01 06:20:50
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics]
ambient 2017-03-01 06:21:03
01:00.0 VGA compatible con01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240]troller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240]
ambient 2017-03-01 06:21:33
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics]
towo` 2017-03-01 06:21:47
radeon does support that card
towo` 2017-03-01 06:22:58
and since it is hybrid graphics you can use dri offloading for switching between the chips
ambient 2017-03-01 06:23:30
towo`, You installed the radeon graphics on debian?
towo` 2017-03-01 06:23:43
radeon comes pre installed
towo` 2017-03-01 06:23:58
you need firmware-amd-graphics from backports
ambient 2017-03-01 06:24:07
I have all that installed
ambient 2017-03-01 06:24:14
already
towo` 2017-03-01 06:24:48
but as long you have installed that fglrx crap, it will not work propper
ambient 2017-03-01 06:24:52
I was excited there for a moment, I thought you were going to tell me AMD has something operational to install
ambient 2017-03-01 06:26:18
AMD is still lightyears away from decent graphics drivers for GNU/Linux
ambient 2017-03-01 06:26:41
Windows is still king for graphics drivers stuff
ambient 2017-03-01 06:26:49
ugh
towo` 2017-03-01 06:26:53
if you think so
towo` 2017-03-01 06:27:21
many people, include myself, have no problems with amd graphics
ambient 2017-03-01 06:27:26
towo`, I do video work, I am VERY interested in getting my graphics drivers operational
towo` 2017-03-01 06:27:39
my notebook, even with hybrid graphics, is working fine
ambient 2017-03-01 06:27:53
towo`, So you can select your graphics card in Blender?
towo` 2017-03-01 06:28:32
i can select the card for the app i want to start
ambient 2017-03-01 06:28:46
towo`, So you can select your graphics card in Blender?
towo` 2017-03-01 06:29:03
i never seen blender, so i have no clue, what you mean
ambient 2017-03-01 06:29:19
Exactly
towo` 2017-03-01 06:29:26
i could start blender on the dgpu or igpu if it is that, what you mean
ambient 2017-03-01 06:30:32
towo`, Blender is a 3d rendering program that also has video editing capabilities. It defaults to CPU, however,you can select your graphics card, if you have drivers for it
towo` 2017-03-01 06:31:14
ambient, then you should say, you want to use openCL
towo` 2017-03-01 06:31:25
and that even should work with radeon
ambient 2017-03-01 06:31:48
should and what actually happens are two different things
ambient 2017-03-01 06:32:24
towo`, However, if you can kindly install Blender and tell us how you got the graphics card fired up, that would be a huge help
towo` 2017-03-01 06:32:31
why should i?
ambient 2017-03-01 06:32:34
You can blog about it and help lots of people
ambient 2017-03-01 06:32:46
towo`, Uhh, to help lots of people?
towo` 2017-03-01 06:32:53
i have no clue about, blender, videoediting or opencl
towo` 2017-03-01 06:33:01
https://www.google.de/search?q=radeon+plender+opencl&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=fwW3WMiJE_LM8getxrnYDw
towo` 2017-03-01 06:33:09
that say, it works
ambient 2017-03-01 06:33:56
"If you are using Blender on AMD, you probably have noticed that Cycles doesn't support AMD GPUs. "
ambient 2017-03-01 06:34:09
towo`, You are absolutely right.
gomoran 2017-03-01 06:35:57
Has mysql been replaced by mariadb in testing?
ambient 2017-03-01 06:36:34
AMD is still lightyears away from decent graphics drivers for GNU/Linux
ambient 2017-03-01 06:36:51
towo`, Thanks for the fun chat
