asterismo 2017-03-02 04:45:20
i was using the wifi card but both devices eth0 (gigabit realtek ethernet) and wlan0 (tp-link wifi pci card) were listed in ifconfig
spooky 2017-03-02 04:45:30
petn-randall: unfortunately i'm new to linux and don't know how to do that
spooky 2017-03-02 04:45:35
or what segfaults means
asterismo 2017-03-02 04:45:59
then after i booted into a root recovery once, the eth0 device dissapeared, and it does not even appears in the 'lspci' output
asterismo 2017-03-02 04:46:01
any ideas
asterismo 2017-03-02 04:46:04
??
petn-randall 2017-03-02 04:46:06
spooky: You just open a terminal and start it from there. If it closes, you'll usually see an error message on the command line.
spooky 2017-03-02 04:46:40
petn-randall: okay. but it closes after a few weeks. so if it doesn't close immediately i just keep the terminal up?
petn-randall 2017-03-02 04:46:52
spooky: yes, sure.
spooky 2017-03-02 04:47:00
ok thnx
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 04:47:18
spooky: It could be that their logs are getting too big.
asterismo 2017-03-02 04:47:20
long story short, i used to have wlan0 and eth0 and after booting into a recovery, i lost eth0 onboard lan and the system wont detect it, does not list on ifconfig
spooky 2017-03-02 04:47:52
jhutchins_wk: even if i'm not keeping logs? is there a way to avoid this?
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 04:48:14
spooky: I'm not familiar with either of those apps, I use irssi which is pretty solid.
spooky 2017-03-02 04:48:28
omg
spooky 2017-03-02 04:48:29
haha
spooky 2017-03-02 04:48:42
everytime i have a problem with an irc program someone recommends another
spooky 2017-03-02 04:48:49
i guess i will try irssi next :S
catbehemoth 2017-03-02 04:50:01
Need someone to confirm to me that if I install a backported kernel on jessie I can still boot from the regular kernel as well? (new kernel is supposed to help with docker so I am willing to try, but dont want to be stuck with the new one if it doesnt resolve my problem)
mtn 2017-03-02 04:51:01
catbehemoth: yes, you can
petn-randall 2017-03-02 04:51:15
catbehemoth: Yes, it'll just install a 2nd kernel next to the first. You'll have an option to pick the old kernel from grub.
catbehemoth 2017-03-02 04:52:39
petn-randall: and removing it will be as easy as apt-get purge linux-iamge....
catbehemoth 2017-03-02 04:52:47
?
petn-randall 2017-03-02 04:53:24
catbehemoth: yes, just pick the right kernel to purge ;)
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:56:18
i wonder if my problem could be that
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:56:35
the 8083 port is working, because in the netstat i see that thing listening on 0.0.0.0 8083
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:56:46
while the :80 thingy is listening... on some weird ass ip
petn-randall 2017-03-02 04:56:59
define "weird ass ip"
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:57:46
10.0.2.17
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:57:46
doesnt look like 127.0.0.1
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:57:46
or 192.168.0.x type
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:57:46
what the hell is it
asterismo 2017-03-02 04:57:46
is there anyway to run the network hardware detection in the system again?
asterismo 2017-03-02 04:57:55
maybe i have some module missing?
petn-randall 2017-03-02 04:58:04
Milchy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network#Private_IPv6_addresses
petn-randall 2017-03-02 04:58:26
Milchy: If it was 127.0.0.1 you wouldn't be able to access it from the host since that is the loopback address.
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:58:43
well i want to change it to 0.0.0.0 and see what happens
Milchy 2017-03-02 04:58:53
though i have no idea where i can do that
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:01:45
asterismo: If lspci doesn't see an unidentified device chances are the hardware has failed.
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:04:42
asterismo: Doesn't show up with ifconfig -a?
riccoo 2017-03-02 05:04:59
Shadow_7: RANDR Query Version returned error -1
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:05:38
riccoo: which command? xbacklight?
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:06:51
jhutchins_wk: no
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:07:19
asterismo: do you have missing firmware? $ dmesg | grep -i firm
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:07:33
jhutchins_wk: but it was until yesterday and the machine has not been subjected to any bad practice, it was everything after the recovery boot
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:09:02
Shadow_7: https://paste.undernet.uy/view/b839bd6f
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:09:02
jhutchins_wk: it does not show in ifconfig -a
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:09:08
it dissapeared!
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:10:22
usb connected? unplug replug?
catbehemoth 2017-03-02 05:10:53
petn-randall: thanks
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:11:10
Shadow_7: me? i have a Tenda usb wifi now, because i cannot use the ethernet card
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:11:26
that is the firmware shown in dmesg
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:11:56
firmware from package firmware-ralink
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:13:26
Shadow_7: i installed it
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:13:29
and nothing
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:13:43
I have a linksys usb3 gig ethernet. Two actually. One of them tends to get hot and goes away, until you unplug and replug it. At least on windows
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:13:47
does it store firmware in /lib/firmware?
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:14:31
i have the Realtek onboard gigabit ethernet of this card, ASUS M5A99X-EVO
petn-randall 2017-03-02 05:14:52
Milchy: Woops, that should have been https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network#Private_IPv4_address_spaces
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:15:22
asterismo: probably firmware-realtek for that one
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:15:35
Shadow_7: yes, and i have it installed
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:15:57
should show up in lspci or lsusb depending on where it's connected
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:15:59
sudo apt-get install firmware-realtek --reinstall ==
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:16:01
??
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:16:26
should i try a backported kernel?¡
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:16:31
asterismo: if you're at that stage, your filesystem has failed you. or you've done naughty things
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:16:58
goddamn it, i still cant reach it =/
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:16:59
Shadow_7: lol
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:17:14
asterismo: you might try git -ing the latest firmware from kernel.org and swapping it out for that.
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:17:41
my rtl8723be needs newer firmware than debian provides to be useful longer than two hours
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:18:40
asterismo: If it's not showing up firmware isn't going to make a difference.
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:19:10
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A99X_EVO/specifications/
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:19:16
Realtek® 8111E , 1 x Gigabit LAN
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:19:26
asterismo: I would investigate the hardware. Check the BIOS, check for a kill switch (rfkill _might_ see it if it's off).
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:19:34
will see if i have all these files
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:19:36
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-realtek/filelist
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:19:56
jhutchins_wk: kill switch?
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:20:13
on the board?
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:20:22
like a jumper setting?
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:21:04
Nah, not on a desktop MB. On a laptop maybe.
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:21:16
its a desktop mobo
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:21:29
asterismo: They're not modular either, the chipset is integrated, so it's not like there's a loose wire or anything.
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:21:58
asterismo: So either there's something in the BIOS or the hardware has just died.
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:22:16
asterismo: https://unixblogger.com/2016/08/11/how-to-get-your-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-working-updated-guide/
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-02 05:22:24
asterismo: On-board Realteks use less than $2 worth of hardware.
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:23:07
jhutchins_wk: yeah
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:23:22
but i want to get out the wifi and use ethernet
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:23:23
seems it's got proprietary drivers, not in certain things. Need the non-free repos and $ sudo apt-get install r8168-dkms
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:23:25
damn
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:23:43
i have enabled that repo
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:23:49
contrib non-free
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:23:56
but i have no such package
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:24:09
r8168-dkms
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:25:26
might be the ubuntu way
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:26:45
Shadow_7: that package is for Sid
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:27:03
i'm running jessie
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:27:08
should i install it?
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:27:27
asterismo: probably have to go the manual route with a source tarball
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:28:26
asterismo: assuming it shows up in lspci... $ lspci -nnk | grep -i 8111
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:28:32
Shadow_7: it depends upon dkms 2.1.0.0 and jessie has the 2.2.0.3-2
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:30:16
asterismo: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:30:20
for the driver
asterismo 2017-03-02 05:31:58
brb
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:32:06
asterismo: 0009-r8168-8.044.02.tar.bz2 is the name it seems
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:34:25
this seems weird
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:34:36
i hosted apache on port 1025
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:34:41
and now i can access it
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:34:49
but not on port 80, whyy ???
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:35:01
hosted as a user?
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:35:14
i just set apache to listen on port 1025 instead of 80
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:35:15
ports <= 1024 have to be hosted as root
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:35:37
how do that so people can access it via port 80 ?
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:35:50
could also be blocked by ISP / firewall
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:36:05
i have 80 in my iptables
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:36:26
strangely enough i dont have 1025, but it still works
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:36:48
how do i "host as root"
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:36:56
the machine just starts apache service automatically
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:37:09
once i log in to my user
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:37:14
Milchy: what use netstat when it starts
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:37:26
should show it listening and what port
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:37:35
its listening on 0.0.0.0:1025 now
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:37:44
0.0.0.0:80 was not accesible
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:38:14
http://87.92.9.130:1025/
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:38:26
but when set to default(80)
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:38:30
its not reachable
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:38:57
consumer ISP connection ? could be blocked by the ISP
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:39:18
this "host" as root might work, but i have no idea what you mean
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:39:29
no isp isnt blocking anything
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:39:37
Milchy: should be default at least for the listener
riccoo_ 2017-03-02 05:39:40
Shadow_7: yes xbacklight
troulouliou_div2 2017-03-02 05:39:44
hi it seems like the live folder from the install iso has diseppear ; can somebody post me a working pxeboot syslinux default conf for debian isntall cd
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:40:11
what did you mean that <1024 ports should be hosted as root
troulouliou_div2 2017-03-02 05:41:27
Milchy, only root can open an listening socket on priv port ( < 1024)
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:41:27
Milchy: only root can do things with those ports. like if you were doing netcat stuff. nc 192.168.2.2 5900 < file.txt ... nc -l -w 300 -p 5900 > file.txt ... for send and receive.
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:41:46
Milchy: as normal users it would fail if port was <= 1024 instead of 5900
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:41:58
if my netstat showed that its listening on 80 previously, does that mean it was ok ?
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:42:29
im not sure what this root thing means, the apache service is auto start up once i log to my user
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:42:32
it should have been. but there could be selinux and other things in the way
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:43:09
is there a way to check what was in the way ?
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:43:09
Should start up when the computer boots? it's a daemon
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:43:28
Milchy: tcpdump to see if it's getting :80 packets
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:43:39
or if it never knocks on the door
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:44:32
no 80's in sight
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 05:44:37
if not, then blocked at the network.
Milchy 2017-03-02 05:45:00
how do i check that then