tw 2017-03-02 14:46:48
syslog doesn't go through the kernel per se.
somiaj 2017-03-02 14:49:03
no but /var/log/messages I thought was from the kernel
tw 2017-03-02 14:51:37
It's whatever (r)syslogd wants it to be. Whatever goes to the syslog socket gets dispatched according to the conf filters.
Bluez 2017-03-02 15:00:25
!bob
dpkg 2017-03-02 15:00:25
well, bob is the almighty spleened one.
Bluez 2017-03-02 15:00:34
#bob
Bluez 2017-03-02 15:02:03
!alice
dpkg 2017-03-02 15:02:03
Who the fuck is Alice?
Bluez 2017-03-02 15:02:14
#alice
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:02:17
Bluez: please stop
Bluez 2017-03-02 15:02:58
oops, sorry, maybe i joined in wrong channel
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:08:04
what kernel does testing provide amd64?
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:08:04
,kernels
judd 2017-03-02 15:08:04
Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.10.0-rc6-686-pae (4.10~rc6-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-2-686 (4.9.13-1); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.6-3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.9.2-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-2)
jrtc27 2017-03-02 15:08:56
,v linux-image-amd64
judd 2017-03-02 15:08:57
Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.9+78~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.9+78; sid: 4.9+79
userro 2017-03-02 15:14:14
who will set dependency package versions?
userro 2017-03-02 15:14:38
debian people or package owners?
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:14:53
debian's package maintainers
userro 2017-03-02 15:15:08
ah
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:15:21
not like it matters. they have to obey what upstream requires. they just but it in debian/control
userro 2017-03-02 15:15:52
I understand thanks
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:16:01
why does debian have so many versions?
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:16:07
archlinux has 1
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:16:11
same with freebsd
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:16:13
openbsd
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:16:34
because it isn't a rolling distro.
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:16:47
why not
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:16:57
stability and security
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 15:17:07
the software is vetted. The oldest version is the least buggy.
userro 2017-03-02 15:17:33
most safest
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 15:17:47
the oldest "current" version. sid kind of is rolling, except when it's freeze.
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:17:51
shouldnt more recent debugged code be more stable?
awal1 2017-03-02 15:18:05
branches
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:18:20
no
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 15:19:44
assuming the most recent is debugged is probably misguided. especially with such moving targets as dependencies.
jsw_ 2017-03-02 15:20:21
Assuming that old = least buggy is also a dangerous assumption.
userro 2017-03-02 15:21:06
then stable version is all around best?
jsw_ 2017-03-02 15:21:16
You need to define what 'best' means to you first.
Shadow_7 2017-03-02 15:21:23
least bugs in terms of crashing... still horrific for security
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:21:30
certaily for anything important/production
userro 2017-03-02 15:21:53
safe and secure out of all most probably
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:22:01
then yes, stable
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:22:41
openbsd is better?
jsw_ 2017-03-02 15:22:42
I'd say Stable then, thanks to Debian Security team helping to patch software if vulnerabilities are found.
jsw_ 2017-03-02 15:22:52
DS doesn't patch Testing or Unstable.
missmbob 2017-03-02 15:22:57
mrtrump: openbsd is offtopic
likcoras 2017-03-02 15:36:31
Hi, I'm getting lines like https://paste.debian.net/917734 every minute, how can I avoid having this litter up my logs?
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:37:25
what is the best mogileFS ish way on linux to provide files, when the file exist on say 20 servers?
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:37:34
I think the term is an object server.
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:37:45
mogielFS seems older...I saw ceph?
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:37:55
and I dont mean nfs
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:38:11
or openafs....I mean something that abstracts 20 servers into 1 folder
mrtrump 2017-03-02 15:38:27
yes has policy to make file X exist on N servers
jsw_ 2017-03-02 15:39:08
@likcoras, you have a cron job configured to run, presumably every hour if that's how often you see those. That's the src of those msgs
jsw_ 2017-03-02 15:39:30
As a solution you can change how frequently the job runs, or you can configure rsyslog (or whatever you're using) to drop those msgs
likcoras 2017-03-02 15:39:49
I noticed that (it's every minute). I just have no idea how to configure it to stop logging it.
nickelad 2017-03-02 15:39:53
lol check ur mail
nickelad 2017-03-02 15:40:13
should be full of crons mails
likcoras 2017-03-02 15:40:15
It isn't sending mail, presumably because of the 2>/dev/null
petemc 2017-03-02 15:40:32
mrtrump: ive used overlayfs
jsw_ 2017-03-02 15:42:20
@likcoras, you want something like this - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20625130/turn-off-crontab-log
likcoras 2017-03-02 15:43:02
Ah, will try. Thanks
