Donquixote 2017-03-02 01:46:01
Chrome and emulators
Donquixote 2017-03-02 01:46:05
*chromium
hanshenrik 2017-03-02 01:54:11
when i `apt-get install ffmpeg` , why does it try to install libav?
missmbob 2017-03-02 01:54:36
!libav
dpkg 2017-03-02 01:54:37
Libav is a complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video. Libav is a fork of and replaces it in the Debian 7 Wheezy and 8 Jessie releases. Multithreaded decoding is available since libav 4:0.7~rc1-1 (bug #575600); MP3 encoding support is available since libav 4:0.7.1-2 (bug #587904). http://libav.org/faq.html http://libav.org/ #libav on irc.freenode.net.
missmbob 2017-03-02 01:54:52
hanshenrik: ffmpeg is in jessie-backports if you want it
hanshenrik 2017-03-02 01:55:47
im actually using debian 9 stretch, but can't join #debian-next for some reason
missmbob 2017-03-02 01:56:00
#debian-next is on oftc, not freenode
hanshenrik 2017-03-02 01:56:09
oh thanks
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 01:56:32
Howdy all
missmbob 2017-03-02 01:56:43
the libav part still applies. just not jessie-backports :P
Brski 2017-03-02 02:03:28
I'm running 'sudo -u www-data /usr/bin/php -f sendMail.php >> sendMail.php.log' but I'm gettings permission denied on the log file even though that www-data is the owner of it and has permissions to write. I just found out that the log file isn't written to by www-data, but instead with the user that I'm running the script with. Why's this???
veek 2017-03-02 02:04:12
it's not suid
themill 2017-03-02 02:05:09
!sudo redirection
dpkg 2017-03-02 02:05:10
themill 2017-03-02 02:05:20
veek: suid has nothing to do with this
jelly 2017-03-02 02:06:23
technically, the shell first prepares the " > /etc/bar" part then runs whatever command
veek 2017-03-02 02:06:24
ah - ty
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:12:48
How long will debian jessie be supported for after stretch release
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:13:05
I forgot the oldstable support time lengh
zmitya 2017-03-02 02:16:27
stoned_: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:17:32
zmitya: I do not like the new softwares in stretch
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:17:48
I tried out the strech debian and it has new things and I don't like them.
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:18:28
what don't you like ?
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:18:45
new versions of desktop and application softwares.
jord 2017-03-02 02:18:55
hiya
jord 2017-03-02 02:19:24
just wanted to ask -- is there a way of creating a livedvd with persistence, specifically on the dvd?
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:19:32
stoned_, well it is a "testing" version after all
jord 2017-03-02 02:19:33
afaik puppylinux can do it
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:20:16
BluesKaj: doesn't matter.
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:20:19
!persistence
tw 2017-03-02 02:20:33
with the persistence stored ON the dvd? I know how you would technically do it, but that seems super weird.
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:20:40
guess there's no info bots ?
jord 2017-03-02 02:20:40
tw, yeah
jord 2017-03-02 02:21:00
dvd's are way cheaper than usbs, and I've got a ton of them
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:21:14
tw: why is it weird?
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:21:33
usually people mean live iso image, not actually a physical dvd rom.
tw 2017-03-02 02:21:45
stoned_: No, he means on optical media.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:21:48
and I'm assuming it's going to be used on a usb, where persistence is possible.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:21:50
does he?
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:21:53
why not confirm?
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:22:08
stoned_, I like it, have no trouble so far except a segfault when closing konversation
jord 2017-03-02 02:22:13
I'll re-iterate, I've got a ton of dvds and I'm too poor to buy a usb ;)
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:22:25
jord: ask for one.
jord 2017-03-02 02:22:32
stoned_, not persistence on the usb
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:22:34
jord: you have friends?
jord 2017-03-02 02:23:02
I do
jord 2017-03-02 02:23:10
but I've got dvd's too!
jord 2017-03-02 02:23:28
afaik puppy does this by running in ram and then saving back to the dvd
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:23:53
jord: how is it saved back to the DVD rom w/o actually burning to the DVD media?
tw 2017-03-02 02:23:55
jord: you'd extend the UDF image with your changes from your tmpfs or ramdisk. I don't know of any live image that does this aside from what you've mentioned. Optical media's immutability property is the only thing keeping it around for the majority of users.
tw 2017-03-02 02:24:13
when syncing the persistance to disk.
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:24:26
i bought three 16Gb USB sticks from amazon for 25bucks
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:24:44
I have the pefectest idea
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:25:19
I will just stick with jessie for however long
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:25:28
I think I read somehwere 2020, I hope that's correct.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:25:36
That's another 3 years. I'm happy w/ that. Not greedy.
jord 2017-03-02 02:26:04
hmm
jord 2017-03-02 02:26:19
puppylinux does it like this: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/MultiSessionLiveDVD
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:26:23
I don't like the new versions of stuff in the new debian. Too many changes. The configs are saved in diff place. It won't even use my kate editor settings
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:26:49
the new kde probably doesn't even have the same config place, I dunno, it all looks different, it's just... I don't wann.
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:27:06
stoned_, it's probly plasma 5 that you don't like, and it dropped some neat features that were available on plasma4
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:27:13
Too many changes. I was hoping, just that application would be updated, and I would not have to reconfigure everything.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:28:02
BluesKaj: I only use a few kde applications, mostly only urxvrt, xmonad, chrome (for netflix), konqueror (file browser, with previews/plugins), kate (I like this editor).
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:28:27
When I go to the new debian, all of of it looks different, none of the configs from my ~ is are affecting it's just really diffrent
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:28:51
Usually I just install a debian and it takes my settings from /home/stoned and I don' thave to really do anything but just install packages.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:28:55
and copy my config files.
tw 2017-03-02 02:29:12
Not sure about kde, but I noticed a lot of stuff becoming more freedesktop compliant with their config files.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:29:13
Now it seems I would have to reconfigure all my desktop apps.. b/c they have a new kde which probably stores things diff place.
hanshenrik_ 2017-03-02 02:29:22
are the libav guys intentionally sabotaging the ffmpeg binary? the current stretch ffmpeg binary, when given "ffmpeg -i foo.jpg bar.jpg", will rotate the picture 90 degrees
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:29:50
tw: that's probably good, but diff from kde4 to kde5 (jessie to stretch) cuasing a lot of 'differences' in my setup
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:30:07
not only is it slightly confusing to find out most of my daily apps require reconfig.
tw 2017-03-02 02:30:09
#debian-next is the place for that.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:30:14
but also tedious.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:30:21
tw: I back on stable jessie.
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:30:26
stoned_, yeah kde/plasma5 is quite different than 4 the default theme for example is silly IMO ,but it's easily changed , no separate backgrounds for VDs etc
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:30:30
I just wanted to share my experience.
jord 2017-03-02 02:30:32
hmm
tw 2017-03-02 02:30:33
hanshenrik_: check bugs for ffmpeg, and file one if it's not there.
jord 2017-03-02 02:30:42
using puppylinux would be easier I guess
jord 2017-03-02 02:30:59
or messing around with antiX, since it already boots from ram
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:31:03
BluesKaj: I don't use plasma. Just xmonad.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:31:14
I wonder, is there a way to build a custom debian iso w/ only the packages I want?
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:31:15
oh
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:31:23
I didn't use debian for a few years and I forgot somethings
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:32:26
xmonad is window manager not a desktopo , but I get your drift
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:32:33
yup
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:32:38
xmoand wm, plus just a few kde apps.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:32:49
That's all I use. Everything else is cli
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:34:19
I use the termianl for maintaining the OS packagewise etc, but I do like dolphin and kate for most tasks and I use muon as a package reference guide
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:34:40
terminal even
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:36:08
and kwin works for me
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:36:34
what is a muon
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:37:00
BluesKaj: kwin isn't a wm. It's doesn't manage windows. You do.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:37:03
:)
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:37:23
xmonad manages my windows. I don't. because I'm not a wm.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:37:23
I'm a person.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:37:48
if a wm has window borders, controls, draggble stuff, title bars, handles, it's not a wm, it's just goofy.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:37:59
it makes users do all the work.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:38:08
I don't think it's right, but anyway. that's neither here nor there.
tw 2017-03-02 02:38:49
Your definition of WM in regard to decorators is vastly different from a majority of users.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:39:02
tw: not just.
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:39:11
stoned_, kwin is classified as a wm in X
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:39:15
not by me! :D
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:40:32
heh, well, that's an opinion then
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:41:33
I don't have a debian machine right now, but i need to make a custom debian iso, w/o access to a debian system
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:41:35
any idea how?
tw 2017-03-02 02:42:38
debootstrap
BluesKaj 2017-03-02 02:42:40
what about netinstall
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:42:45
I'm on windows
tw 2017-03-02 02:43:16
xmonad doesn't run on windows.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:43:47
Right. I wanted to make a custom debian installer cd w/ base system + whatever packages and their dependenceis I use.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:43:57
then install the debian.
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:44:23
cusotmCD req acces to a debian systme already
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:44:25
!customcd
stoned_ 2017-03-02 02:44:29
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD this anyway
