Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:46:01
Shadow_7: Nothing appears when I enter that in synaptic :x
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:46:20
Donquixote: [ 468.808] (EE) intel(0): Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:46:34
Okay. How do I fix that?
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:46:37
seems your i915 partied too much and is hung over
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:47:04
Donquixote: look at the last two lines...oh that has been pointed out. You have some sort of hardware/driver issue, now check demsg for wanrings/messages from the i915 driver
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:47:29
Donquixote: probably missing packages. cairo, vaapi, intel-gpu-tools, and others
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:47:52
unless you have some bleeding edge version not supported by debian stable kernel
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:48:20
Donquixote: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:48:39
demsg didn't do anything
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:48:59
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 03)
dooom 2017-03-03 08:49:49
not demsg dmesg
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:50:01
intel-gpu-tools is indeed not installed
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:51:32
Donquixote: at leat you're not alone... https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3822060-8086-2a02-drm-i915_hangcheck_elapsed-error-hangcheck-timer-elapsed-gpu-hung
RFleming 2017-03-03 08:51:37
`Kevin: LVM causes more problems than necessary
`Kevin 2017-03-03 08:52:02
RFleming: in most cases agreed
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:52:05
Installing this should fix everything, right?
RFleming 2017-03-03 08:52:50
When is ext5 coming out? :)
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:52:51
Donquixote: this may or may not help, but there is a newer kernel and xserver-xorg-video-intel in jessie-backports. I'm unsure if the issue is hardware compadablity with the 3.16 kernel/drivers or not.
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:53:08
dates back to 2012 or earlier, surely it might be better/fixed by now
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:53:09
Donquixote: this is just one thing that isn't to hard to check by installing a backported kernel and maybe intel driver.
RFleming 2017-03-03 08:53:14
should handle snapshots and encryption
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:53:44
The installation didn't do anything
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:54:18
Donquixote: instalation of what?
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:54:32
intel-gpu-tools
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:55:01
Donquixote: try the backported kernel and then intel driver
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:55:09
Donquixote: mac book pro?
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:55:25
No, TOSHIBA L300
towo` 2017-03-03 08:55:28
i would use the modesetting ddx instead of the intel-ddx
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:55:34
Which should be compatible with Linux-libre
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:55:47
The result of dmesg is very long
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:55:53
More than the Terminal can handle
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:56:35
http://paste.debian.net/917871/
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:56:54
towo`: isn't the modsettting driver in jessie still fairly new, I thought that was suggested in stretch but not quite sure if it would help much in jessie.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 08:57:03
somiaj: How do I install them?
towo` 2017-03-03 08:57:27
somiaj, it should work with the jessie driver too
towo` 2017-03-03 08:57:36
but a new kernel is nessesary
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:57:43
!bpo kernel
dpkg 2017-03-03 08:57:43
Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:57:50
Donquixote: ^^ those instructions seem doable?
stoned 2017-03-03 08:58:14
can debian boot from a gpt disk partition if the mbr lives on an MBR disk elsewhere?
towo` 2017-03-03 08:58:16
somiaj, the newer intel-ddx does not really like the old gma chipsets anymore
towo` 2017-03-03 08:58:41
in this case, the old intel-ddx in jessie would be the better choice
Shadow_7 2017-03-03 08:58:49
Donquixote: seems like a quirky one. nomodeset for the kernel parm in your bootloader. or i915.modeset=1 (or =0). # modinfo i915
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:59:04
Donquixote: in that last paste, lines 776-783 is the issue are the errors.
towo` 2017-03-03 08:59:09
from the dmesg, it's a problem with drm, so libdrm from bpo would even be a good advise
somiaj 2017-03-03 08:59:19
towo`: so your suggestion would be use a backported kernel with the modesetting driver (not the intel one)?
mernilio 2017-03-03 08:59:45
It has been quite a debacle about Sweden and its imigration policy. Let me say it is not by far so serious like Fox News want it to sound like.
towo` 2017-03-03 08:59:47
soj1st i would try the intel-ddx, but defenitively not the one from backports
greycat 2017-03-03 08:59:57
mernilio: #debian-offtopic
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:00:26
Donquixote: anyways you have some issue with hardware vs drivers, there are some various suggestions floating around, I would first try a backported kernel only then after that look into either using the modesetting driver or disable modesetting.
towo` 2017-03-03 09:00:45
somiaj, my suggesztion would also be kernel and libdrm from backports and intel-ddx from jessie
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:01:13
Is my Account conntected?
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:01:16
I lost my connection
c-c 2017-03-03 09:01:40
likely so
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:01:58
Donquixote: anyways you have some issue with hardware vs drivers, there are some various suggestions floating around, I would first try a backported kernel only then after that look into either using the modesetting driver or disable modesetting.
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:02:07
Donquixote: dmesg | less
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:02:22
Donquixote: Gives you the output in a searchable pager.
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:02:25
Donquixote: also towo` seems to be the one I would listen to on this issue.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:02:25
That's a funny command
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:02:35
Donquixote: it is because less is better than more
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:02:42
It really is
mernilio 2017-03-03 09:02:44
greycat: --> Is the real O'reilly ..
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:03:27
Is installing a new kernel complicated?
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:03:30
mernilio: it is off topic here, if you aren't willing to take the conversation elsewhere, you will be silenced.
dooom 2017-03-03 09:03:30
"less is more"
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:03:30
Donquixote: not really
c-c 2017-03-03 09:03:35
Donquixote: you can use dpkg
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:03:53
Can I use synaptic?
mernilio 2017-03-03 09:04:01
This is America and i stand by it!
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:04:08
ahhhhhhhh
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:04:10
!more
dpkg 2017-03-03 09:04:10
'more' is a program on Unix and Unix-like systems used to view (but not change) the contents of a text file one screen at a time. It is similar to less, but only allows forward navigation through the file (although newer implementations allow for limited backward movement). See also .
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:04:14
!less
dpkg 2017-03-03 09:04:14
[less] a program on Unix and Unix-like systems used to view (but not change) the contents of a text file one screen at a time. It is similar to , but has the extended capability of allowing both forward and backward navigation through the file. Unlike vi (which can also be used to view files), less does not need to read the entire file before starting, resulting in faster load times with large files.
towo` 2017-03-03 09:04:50
I would urgently suggest updating libdrm from backports too, since dmesg is showing a drm issue
c-c 2017-03-03 09:05:24
!installkernel
c-c 2017-03-03 09:05:48
!kernelcompile
c-c 2017-03-03 09:06:45
yeah well its not diff, but do your homework first
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:06:52
I have a lot of homework now though
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:06:53
c-c: You can /msg dpkg to find commands, you can do listkeys (in a private window), and you can search the database online (though I don't have the URL).
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:06:55
I appreciate your help
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:06:55
But I think I'll change the system
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:06:55
!backports
dpkg 2017-03-03 09:06:55
A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about and . See also .
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:06:59
If these kinds of issues aren't uncommon
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:07:03
,kernels
judd 2017-03-03 09:07:04
Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.10.0-rc6-686-pae (4.10~rc6-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-2-686 (4.9.13-1); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.6-3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.9.2-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-2)
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:08:07
Donquixote: Manufacturers usually don't ship hardware until they have stable windows drivers, but linux drivers often don't start development until the hardware is in the stores, so they lag.
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:08:21
Donquixote: On the other hand, therea re manufacturers that ship pre-release hardware to linux developers to get them started.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:08:46
My hardware should be perfect though
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:08:59
It is listed on H-Node with a-Platinum compatibility
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:09:19
It works flawlessly with Ubuntu and worked flawlessly with debian 2 years ago
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:10:14
Donquixote: Probably works fine in debian now then, as long as it's properly tweaked.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:10:48
Which I sadly have not the time for
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:14:31
How is it possible that I can play YouTube videos, but not local Video files?
matsasc 2017-03-03 09:14:51
1what browser are you using?
matsasc 2017-03-03 09:14:51
some browser got the codecs built in
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:15:25
Both, Chrome and Firefox
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:15:35
A Chrome addon can play local media files
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:15:45
The codecs are build in
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:16:15
So my entire problem comes from Linux' packaging system. Am I correct?
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:16:29
I downloaded an AppImage of VLC
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:16:33
When I play I file with it, it immediatly crashes
c-c 2017-03-03 09:17:48
Donquixote: start it from console and see the error message
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:17:53
Donquixote: Have you tried a newer kernel yet? Did you not see those kernel/hardware errors that is your problem.
towo` 2017-03-03 09:18:20
[21:16:22] I downloaded an AppImage of VLC <== that could be the whole problem
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:18:50
It also doesn't work with the synaptic version of vlc
towo` 2017-03-03 09:18:52
what's wrong with apt-get install vlc?
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:19:44
synaptic should be the same version.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:20:03
I only downloaded the AppImage after finding that debians media players don't work
c-c 2017-03-03 09:20:03
"It also deosn't work" is not an error
towo` 2017-03-03 09:20:03
"don't work" is saying zero
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:20:03
Synaptic VLC plays audio, but has black screen
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:20:03
AppImage VLC crashes
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:20:03
but if installing third party software messes with libaries and the likes.
towo` 2017-03-03 09:20:03
and you have problemswith your graphics
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:20:03
The issue was there before I got the AppImage
towo` 2017-03-03 09:20:04
so 1st you should fix those problems
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:20:06
we have given you some sugestions, have you tried them?
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:20:10
I only got it because of the issues
c-c 2017-03-03 09:20:21
Donquixote: start it from console and see the error message
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:20:26
All except getting a new kernel
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:21:29
Donquixote: you have a driver/hardware issue, so kernels/drivers are what needs to be messed with.
BluesKaj 2017-03-03 09:21:35
edo there's no such thing a synaptic vlc , sysnaptic gets the apps from the same repository as apt... synaptic is a front end gui for dpkg
BluesKaj 2017-03-03 09:21:43
Donquixote, ^
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:23:26
c-c The error is very similar to what the xv command from before says. Ending with "Memory access error"
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:23:48
BluesKaj I know. I just wanted to distinct it from the AppImage
c-c 2017-03-03 09:24:15
Donquixote: google the error with "debian vlc"
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:25:26
I give up.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:26:08
Thanks for your time
c-c 2017-03-03 09:26:45
vague problem description --> vague help
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:27:51
For all we know it's a bad video file.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:28:08
"Google 'debian vlc'" isn't exactly detailed either :V
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:28:22
It is not. The problems applies to every file
c-c 2017-03-03 09:29:35
Donquixote: pastebin/gist your error or it didn't happen
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:29:35
I learned that a possible solution might be a new kernel, which I see as more troubling than installing a new system
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:29:35
Donquixote: focus on the hardware errors alreayd posted.
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:30:02
c-c: the kernel/i915/drm is crashing on his system. They have already been suggested to try a newer kernel, or other hardware related suggestions.
c-c 2017-03-03 09:30:13
ok
c-c 2017-03-03 09:30:27
lol @ drm
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:30:52
http://paste.debian.net/917871/ lines 776-783 if interested
c-c 2017-03-03 09:36:23
you probably went over this but this is with intel firmwares?
c-c 2017-03-03 09:38:11
wonder also if really intel 915 or maybe nvidia
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:38:13
Donquixote: Installing a new kernel is trivial.
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:38:29
I realized that already.
jhutchins_wk 2017-03-03 09:39:26
Donquixote: If you already have the latest from the release, /msg dpkg backports and follow the instructions on the web site to set them up, then apt install -t jessie-backports linux-image
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:41:01
For now I'll just stick with the chrome App
Donquixote 2017-03-03 09:41:21
Then I'll change the system in a few days
somiaj 2017-03-03 09:41:56
in the time you have been discussing this you could have already tried out a new kernel and a few other things
